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"b-but bears are actually dangerous!" Shut the hell up.

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[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

yeah, so then by this logic, women shouldn’t be choosing to be with a bear,

What women are saying, is based on all the information shown to them and what they have gathered on their own. Given a choice between a random man and a random bear. They would chose to be lost in the woods with a bear. They feel physically and emotionally safer with the bear. Is their assessment accurate/correct, who knows?

Does this mean all men are rapists? No, no one has said that.

it doesn’t matter whether they are more/less physically safe around the man over the bear,

I disagree, why would physical saftey not be important? A bear could be happy just leaving them alone and eating berries. A man might decide to do something physically unwanted/dangerous to them.

My point here is that you need to communicate clearly, because otherwise you could be saying literally anything.

I agree, I wish the people who are raging at me and down-voting me would be nice, and tell me what interpretation they have of the statement. Instead I am getting vague feelings posting with no arguments. Thank you for diving into this with me.

i agree, but in this case, the irony here is that we aren’t supposed to care about the feelings of men generically

No one in this conversation has said that. The feelings of men are important. The feelings of women are important. The saftey of men is more important that the feelings of women.The safety of women are more important than the feelings of men. Saying one does not contradict the other.

the point here was that these statements weren’t related at all

I agree, I thought this was a hypothetical, sorry I was wrong.

Men's feelings can have an effect on the saftey of women. Imagine if the majority of men felt like they were owed sex even if women didn't want it. These feelings will cause most women to be physically unsafe.