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I am listening to Magic Pill for the second time ( book about ozempic weight loss drug ) https://magicpillbook.com/
here's what I think after listening one time, it's a great drug that actually works and it's best used short term as an aid to tackling the psychology of eating and resetting eating habits.
I would totes take it if it were available here but it being Australia drug companies can't be bothered and we have an over cautious government . I would even considering going to Canada to get it if possible.
Why is it good? It actually helps people regain health and reduces risks of age and weight related illnesses. This is proven .
One of the scary things I learnt in the book is how fake nearly all manufactured food is.
eg, bought cheese cake is just emulsified milk products, added oils, sugars and thickeners and flavour. Home made I used ricotta and eggs and real lemons or cherries. Real pastry base too.
One is fake food with practically no positive nutritional value, the other is real food that has some nutrition but should still be eaten sparingly as it's high in calories.
The other sad thing is that the author's parents worked so hard they were too tired to cook healthy meals. They ate premade meals zapped in the microwave. I will not fault the parents, that fault is in the work that tired them out and the food they bought being misrepresented as being healthy .
Be careful with the food chain details, they vary wildly from country to countey.
US food manufacturing is insane at the best of times.
I thought about ozempic. I decided to do it the hard way, but those extra benefits for heart health etc are really interesting.
I'd be keen just for those secondary effects.
Most people use it for ever because they also don't change their diet , they still eat the same crap just less of it, and don't exercise. Once they stop using ozempic they go back to eating more bad food.
I think using it as an aid to help develope new good habits or reset your body signals is the way.
80% of my diet calories are very good, home cooked food using real basic ingredients, I eat fresh fruit and vegetables everyday. It's that 20% of junk that's bad, bikkies, lollies, occasional desserts, fried food.
And the side effects, absolutely minimal and unproven . The side effects of obesity are guaranteed, debilitating and often fatal .
That makes sense. About 5 years ago I did the whole body transformation thing and it was great. But! It was too extreme and I ended up (also due to lockdown) putting back about 40% of what I lost. It can be really easy to get carried away with the whole gym/eating/aesthetics thing, almost to the point of giving oneself an eating disroder. This time I'm trying to be smart by offsetting the junk I eat with healthy main meals and not religeously counting calories.