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[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 107 points 6 months ago (78 children)

On one hand, you have people who are mostly comfortable with letting Palestinians die. On the other, people who openly talk about nuking them.

You have a group of people who may be willing to throw minorities under the bus. And you have another group that is waiting for the opportunity to do so and make it law.

Both choices are terrible, I agree, but there is one that is a clear better over the other. It sucks, but you have to accept that it's the way it is for now and you are not going to pull some third party out of your ass. That is going to have to wait for now. You have to make a decision between the lesser of two evils.

I'm counting on you, Americans. As a trans woman from a European country which political climate is heavily influenced by yours, I can quite confidently say that my rights are in your hands.

Quite frankly, I can't think of a more terrifying thought, but it is what it is.

Don't fuck this up. Please.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I know as Americans we consider ourselves the center of the universe but this is one of those things that warrant it.

With Trump's last win we saw Argentina, Belarus, Brazil, Philippines, Australia, and Italy (just naming a few) in power crazy nut jobs. Attacking your community, immigrants, and the poor bc the US had someone spouting shit daily and being racist/anti immigrant was openly supported. It is like a virus, it spreads.

I hope we crush is attempt to be president again but you never know. We need the young people and millennials to vote. It's hard though.

Stay safe and I hope we have a bright future to look forward too.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I know as Americans we consider ourselves the center of the universe but this is one of those things that warrant it.

With Trump’s last win we saw Argentina, Belarus, Brazil, Philippines, Australia, and Italy (just naming a few) in power crazy nut jobs.

If you argument is that US presidents set global trends than see exhibit a) Palestinians for the future of how the U.S. and other western countries will treat their citizens and how institutional power will utterly deny it the entire time.

If Biden does not stop this genocide now a new era of violence is being normalized and in conjunction with climate change destroying food security and access to clean water it is going to be very very dark.

If Biden does not budge on Palestine even though there is a strong and clear signal from the American people to do so than we have already lost and people upset at me for not not voting for Biden (if he continues to refuse to budge) are yelling into the void.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If Biden does not budge on Palestine even though there is a strong and clear signal from the American people to do so than we have already lost and people upset at me for not not voting for Biden (if he continues to refuse to budge) are yelling into the void.

I agree we have a lot of issues but we can fix them if we decide to. I could agree that the Vietnam war / civil rights period was worse. We pulled ourselves out of that but we failed to learn from it. People got complainant and money started to flow so everyone accepted it.

By not voting we will see something worse. The Republicans have said multiple times they want to wipe the Palestinians off the earth. They want Russia to succeed in Ukraine. Civil rights wiped away. The environment set on fire. That is a lot worse than now.

Putting our hands up and saying nothing can be done is a farce. By doing nothing we are complicit. Vite like people's lives are on the line bc they are. Next election vote for a local candidate with more "extreme"(national healthcare , universal schooling, climate protection plans...etc) views. That is how you change stuff. You keep doing that until the top is like the bottom.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Next election vote for a local candidate with more "extreme"(national healthcare , universal schooling, climate protection plans...etc) views. That is how you change stuff.

Is that how the United States was created?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago

That was the original belief system. They just had a couple of massive flaws, slavery and genocide.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

If Biden does not stop this genocide now a new era of violence is being normalized and in conjunction with climate change destroying food security and access to clean water it is going to be very very dark.

Are you worried about Biden winning? This is not even a question. Understand everything you wrote there is 1000x worse under trump. The things you're talking about fixing can only happen under Biden.

Seriously, it's no joke that it's exactly the same message as russian propaganda to say 'biden loves genocide, don't vote'. If anyone thinks that's actually the path to a better tomorrow they're useful idiots.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

new era of violence is being normalized

I dunno it seems pretty much the same as the old era of violence to me, where Israel was still occupying the region and still doing a genocide and a million Iraqis died in a meaningless war for oil rights to avoid gas prices climbing by 5 bucks

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Those things you mention WILL GET WORSE under Trump.

Not voting Biden is a vote for Trump. Your protest WILL fuck things up.

Get off your high horse and vote Biden.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

the american votership is very emotional. they don't think about the future. they vote how we feel right now.

hence why we are like this. biden will lose if the is a economic downturn, for example.

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