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Reddit removes years of chat and message archives from users' accounts (mashable.com)

submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Dalinar 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How much data are you storing and how much do you think reddit is?

[–] irkli@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Oh no comparison! Mines like 10 to 50 gb. I assume reddit's is in high terabytes.

The point is cloud services charge for data leaving storage over networks.

Just guessing, and I'm not gonna RTFM and do the math, but for "cold line" storage a static petabyte would be maybe hundreds of dollars/mo max. That's noise to them.

[–] Wheels@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right but the difference is Reddit is now charging an extortionate amount for data access via the API when compared to other platforms.
What do you think this (if achieved what was hoped) massive new flow of income was supposed to help sustain?
Oh yeah, infrastructure costs.

[–] irkli@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GROWTH. The upcoming IPO is for a publicly traded growth corporation. Read about how they work. The side 2ffects are appalling.

It is nothing like you'd imagine a corner store working, where profit is the goal.

[–] Wheels@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Read about how they work.

No need to be quite so condescending is there?
I fully understand how they work.
Seems like this growth they should be trying to achieve is fucking futile when they:

cut off the apps that a portion of their most active users use
prevent helpful bots (automod etc.) working correctly or being financially viable due to API changes
shuttered an award system that helped maintain engagement via vain dopamine acquisition and actively made them money with no replacement in sight other than some data mined financial incentive program which will lead to a lack of genuine discussion
spat in the face of their largely volunteer moderation community who volunteer their time for free to help keep things smooth
delete the content histories of their users when it isn’t publicly facing. Users give content to platform, that’s how Reddit exists, to remove DMs from users it makes it very apparent they’re content pigs and nothing more. Can’t have a transactional platform (content to profit) if the content doesn’t feel any incentive to use the platform.

Not to mention, infrastructure costs lead to growth.
If you don’t have the resources to support your current platform, you shouldn’t be actively trying to grow the platform by discarding older content. It makes those accessing and making use of the content (be it individual or institutional) lose trust in the quality of data.

Great growth strategy that.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He means the business model they're going for with the IPO.

Growth means the value of the company. The shares. The stockholders getting dividends. It has fuck all to with user experience, or even user growth. It's about manipulating information and using clever accounting to get investors to give you money.

[–] Wheels@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

The company is worth fuck all if their sole “money generation” process is via user data and authentic conversation.
Users ARE Reddit.
No content, no value.
No value? No dividends.

[–] irkli@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My apologies! I was commenting only on the cost of cold line storage, for the hypothesis reddit is offline storing data, only. I meant, there, to know the cost look for the pricing page it's reasonably readable.

Tbh I find the order of Lemmy reply presentation a bit confusing sometimes.