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[–] sudo@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I literally do not see anyone “punching left” outside of the mainstream media. No one on Lemmy is out here saying “these damn protestors if only they would shut up” or anything like that.

Front page of this very community:

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'll say it again:

  • Someone ostensibly on the left criticizes Biden
  • Someone then argues that that criticism is unfair or disagrees with it

... is not punching left.

Someone from the pro-Biden camp directing some kind of "punching" at someone who hadn't already brought Biden into the argument themselves, from an anti perspective, would be punching left. Someone "punching" at Biden (which terminology I don't even really agree with), and then there's a response "actually here's why I don't think that's true," is not punching.

Surely that makes sense?

Or, like I said, someone from the establishment-Democrat camp who directs condemnation at someone who's literally just trying to stick up for the Palestinians, because it makes Biden look bad. That would be punching left, and that definitely happens from Democratic politicians and in the MSM. I'm saying I haven't seen any of that on Lemmy.

Surely that makes sense? IDK, maybe not. But that what I said up there is my viewpoint on it. Hope it's helpful.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your argument boils down to "they started it" and doesnt matter. All of those posts are criticizing leftists who won't vote for Biden because he's supporting genocide by reducing the left's position to bothsidesism.

establishment-Democrat camp who directs condemnation at someone who’s literally just trying to stick up for the Palestinians, because it makes Biden look bad. That would be punching left, and that definitely happens from Democratic politicians and in the MSM.

What is your point here? That democratic party reps dont post on lemmy? Because this:

directs condemnation at someone who’s literally just trying to stick up for the Palestinians

Is exactly what those posts are doing.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.