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[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have various bags that get used for range trips and travel. I am METICULOUS about clearing the gun stuff out of a bag when I’m done. Same with my vehicle, as I cross an international border from time to time and don’t want my truck getting ripped apart. Every bit of gun stuff that goes in the truck on range day is accounted for and removed when I get home.

The real answer is simple. These people are irresponsible fuckwits that give responsible gun owners a shitty name. You can see it every time you go to the range. People shooting the ceiling, people turning around with a pistol in hand and muzzling the whole room. There are a metric fuck ton of people with guns in the US that shouldn’t be considered qualified to own them.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And we've tried everything from "making guns easier to get" to "absolutely nothing," and we're out of ideas.

I really wish we could have a good faith conversation in this country about the intersections between rights and responsibilities. Until then, I'm fine with people going to prison in foreign countries for this kinda crap.

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lefty gun owner here, and we haven’t done “nothing” but certainly not enough. Gun control advocates have always done things that feel good and do nothing to prevent violence. Magazine capacity bans (one columbine shooter had 14 ten round ban compliant mags) and bans on cosmetic features like heat shrouds and pistol grips do absolutely nothing to keep anyone safer. People will just train to be effective with pesky ban compliant features, or, you know, ignore the law.

Michigan did something great in response to a school shooting. If a child or otherwise restricted person gains access to your firearms and harms someone, you get slapped with a major felony, a law that’s already been put to use a few times. So it basically makes a safe mandatory by placing the fear of a lengthy sentence on leaving your guns out for kids to grab. It’s something.

Personally, I wouldn’t mind seeing an actual proficiency test, one that weeds out the lowest common denominator. I have sought training and education consistently over years to participate in competitive shooting events, and I’ve literally shot with cops that I wouldn’t let clean their gun in my kitchen. The “test” for a concealed carry license is a joke, id like to see a true test of safety knowledge to even own a firearm.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Canadians have to take and pass an expensive, lengthy course to get a gun license.

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

That’s one part of Canadian law I could be okay with. Keep carry permits (with additional training and testing). Keep American castle doctrine and self defense laws that provide protection for reasonable use of force. Add a fast track to purchase for victims of domestic abuse or stalking.

I’m unwavering in my belief that people should have the right to lethally defend from mortal threats and sexual assault. Canadian law affords very little legal protection for such cases. That’s at least one part we get right.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago

I never put gun stuff in anything other than a range bag, and I never take range bags traveling. I don't understand - are these people using their travel luggage as range bags? I can't say I've ever seen someone at the range unloading ammo from a suitcase.

Your situation is a bit different, though. You're actually driving across the border. I can see accidentally leaving some range gear in a vehicle, and especially ammo if you tote it separately as you might with rifle or shotgun shooting. Your diligence is commendable, and wise considering you're crossing one of the two borders we have.

Ultimately, the only person I trust with a firearm is me. It sounds as if you're more charitable than that, but we agree there are a lot of people who really shouldn't have guns.