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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago

Mifepristone, which we have known is safe for over 40 years, is apparently too dangerous but a 9 year old giving birth is a-okay how this quack.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

That's what I mean

They 100% know it's safe.

But they do t like that it's legal for other reasons that they know don't have plausible deniability.

So they claim (against all science) it's dangerous, and count on extremists judges to pretend they believe it and outlaw it on that premise.

No amount of factual evidence about the safety of the drug will change any of their actions, because they don't give a single fuck if it's safe or not.

Moderates always fall for the trap and take them at their word. Which is insane, and at this point it seems safe to say the reason is they have a lot of the same donors, and part of the strings to that money is going along with the dog and pony show even tho everyone involved already knows what the result will be.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

They do know that. However, a woman (a fucking doctor nonetheless) who thinks it's safe for a 9 year old yo give birth is not playing with a full deck of cards. She honestly should have her license revoked. That is straight batshit.

Other things they try to lure moderates with:

"European countries ban it after 12 weeks!"

They of course fail to mention that their 12 weeks is closer to our 14/15 weeks, that you can get one at any hospital, you don't have to pay for it, and exceptions for that ban are not hard to come by.

"Babies can survive after 21 weeks!"

One. One child made it at 21 weeks. At 22 weeks it's a bit better but still extremely unlikely. At 23 weeks there is a 25% chance and at 24 weeks there is a 50% chance. But the percentage of fetuses aborted after 20 weeks is 1%. The vast majority of those are due to issues with the fetus like it will die an excruciating death shortly after birth or the woman will die which is absolutely now a thing in states with restrictive abortion laws. The few where that isn't the case likely could not get one earlier due to expenses or lack of availability in the area or restrictive laws requiring multiple visits.

"Fetuses have a heart beat at four weeks."

A rhythmic electrical pulse is not a heart beat.

"Women use abortion as contraception!"

Abortion is no walk in the park and not cheap. Much easier to simply use birth control which is what the vast majority of women do.

Most Americans do not want unrestricted abortion!

Yeah. Most people ones do not want unrestricted surgery. Not surprising. The vast majority (~85%) were fine with Roe v Wade staying in place and states only being able to pass laws after the point of viability.

"Jesus hates abortion!"

First, his name is Yeshua. Second, an abortifacient is prescribed for a suspected cheating woman in the Bible. Southern Baptists dios Not even hice a shit about abortion until the late 70s.

The overall goal is obvious to all of us who recognize that access to abortion is necessary. But be on the lookout for anti abortion advocates who try to seem moderate. They are not.

This message is not directed directly at you but if you happen to come across these arguments, these are some easy responses to point out their bullshit. Also mention that since the end of Roe there have been about 65k pregnancies from rape in the 14 states with near total bans on abortion. Super great. /s

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