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[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how it works in the US but join the democratic party and vote for the presidential candidate you want to see. If it doesn't work out and you don't like the democratic candidate but said candidate is still better than the Republican, still vote Democrat.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure how it works in the US

Yeah. If you think primaries matter, you don't know how it works here...

But one DNC lawyer’s argument actually tries to justify the party’s right to be biased on behalf of one primary candidate over another, according to an article from The Young Turks. In other words, they could have chosen their nominee over cigars in a backroom.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/dnc-lawyer-reportedly-said-they-could-have-chosen-between-clinton-sanders-over-cigars-in-back-rooms/

Their legal defense for interfering with the 2016 primary was literally:

Who cares? A primary isn't a real election and doesn't matter, we don't have to listen to results.

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the primaries system is fucked up, but protest votes in the presidential elections won't change the system for the better either. Neither party wants to introduce a democratic, proportional voting system because both parties would lose power. I don't know how to fix it, i just know that getting Trump elected won't.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe

Maybe?

It is fucked.

We have no say in who either of the two general candidates are, and they take billions from the same people/industries.

That's not an exaggeration, 2020 Biden spent a billion, and 2024 they're predicting two billion.

We have an illusion of choice and the same people win no matter which party wins the oval office.

I don’t know how to fix it, i just know that getting Trump elected won’t.

Neither will voting Biden, it doesn't solve the problem, just kicks the can down the road and 4 years from now it'll be the same thing. Either with trump again or someone even worse.

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Better kick the can down the road than slip and fall and fucking die.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

than slip and fall and fucking die.

You forgot "risk" and leaving out that in this analogy "kicking the can" is surviving a little.longer by extending suffering.

But it's depressing how many people want to spend time convincing people to vote for an unrepent genocide supporter than trying to get the US president and upcoming candidate to stop supporting a genocide...

This is like when people claimed to support civil rights and MLK. But spent all their time complaining about protests and saying if we all just shut up and accepted it life would be easier for you.

I'm glad Biden won't fundamentally change your life, and that your life is currently good enough for that to be acceptable.

But you're in the minority these days.

So keep yelling at people who will suffer under either party to vote for someone that hates them and will actively work against them...

If you want to prevent republicans from holding higher office tho, I suggest you join the adults and demand the DNC be better than just "not a Republican".

You get to prevent trump and help the needy!