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[–] mycathas9lives@lemmy.world 70 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are in the mood to fight everybody. They no longer care about optics. Genocide without borders to be continued.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As long as the US backs them up they feel invincible. I'm sure the nukes help, too. They're like Russia.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah and if they start attacking NATO countries it's going to end badly for them. The US will drop support like a hot rock. They really won't like it I'm sure, but they are not going to back Israel over NATO, it's just not happening.

[–] machineLearner@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

well israel has attacked a nato country before to no consequence. The United States.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Do you mean that oopsie with the USS Liberty? That kind of thing happens occasionally but cooler heads prevail as long as everyone communicates. There was also an incident when a Turkish f-16 (Turkey being a NATO member) shot down a Russian su-24, but nobody went to war over it.

[–] machineLearner@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Point stands - Israel attacking a NATO nation wouldn’t cause american support to waver. Israel serves our colonial interests too much for that.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yes I'm just saying that if the sides (even if they are enemies like Russia/NATO) are not interested in going to war, they will tolerate isolated incidents. even with casualties. This isn't something unique to the america-israel relationship

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean Israel in the United States have never had a conflict between them

[–] machineLearner@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, not a conflict. And so long ago that the current political situation is totally different.

The US wouldn't have a choice, if Israel attacks a NATO country then it's article 5 automatically. Then their only option would be to leave NATO and they're not going to do that.

You are not arguing in good faith.

[–] machineLearner@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Okay man. Note that nowhere in the comment chain before you decided to chime in did anyone say conflict. And as far as I know, an attack is an attack and it usually warrants retaliation. But Israel gets unlimited oopsies, lord forbid that Egypt or Lebanon does this, it’s immediately casus belli if the current governments aren’t friendly.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago