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Pedophiles don't deserve rights (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by Bezzelbob@lemmy.world to c/controversial@sh.itjust.works

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Not all humans inherently deserve rights just because they are human. Think of people like Hiter, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the dozens of other evil people. No one would reasonably think they deserve sympathy, because of what they chose to do.

If your evil enough to commit such a heinous act as child rape, I don't see any legitimate reason why that person should deserve any sort of sympathy.

Subconsciously everyone agrees on this to some extent. Look at prisons, (depending on the crime) they remove your right to vote, own a gun, even walk outside, and have certain jobs.

The reason I believed my take is controversial is because of how I think those pedos would lose their rights. I believe people as evil as them aren't people at all. They are simply containers of flesh with a human face, and should be seen as such. I have no issue with the idea they should be used as slaves and test subjects. Arguably this would actually benefit humanity (especially in terms of medicine) because now instead of risking the lives of innocent people like doctors or everyday Joe's, we could use them to see if the experimental drug has any side effects. Honestly, what are they going to do? Revoke consent? I wonder of the child they raped got that same privilege...

I'm sure this goes without saying but the person would have to be caught red-handed with undeniable proof to be subjected to this

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[–] Melkath@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Victims of abuse become perpetrators of abuse.

Do what you want with that take, but remember most of these people weren't born broken, like Dahmer. They were broken by people.

Catholic church and Boy Scouts, so sorry, now named SA, still exist. Still abuse people. Still break people.

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Victims of abuse become perpetrators of abuse.

This doesn't justify anything, just because someone did it to you, doesnt mean you can do it to someone else. If anything this supports my point, because now there would be less child rapists which means less people would turn into predators

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hey, I'm not defending them. At all. I'm not sure I'm not on team bullet to the back of the head.

I'm just saying maybe focus on the problem as a whole instead of going straight to the pitchfork.

Cut off the head of a hydra in a mindless frenzy and it spawns 2 more. Gotta have the presence of mind to cauterize the neck.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They can't help thinking that way if they were subject to it, part of the mind, maybe. Look how you're thinking. It's horrifically broken. So hi, choose to think differently or maybe do you deserve being used as a slave or a nice visit with Dr. Mengele?

I don't think that, I do think this attitude is extremely problematic and would encourage you to seek behavioral therapy, stat.

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They can't help thinking that way if they were subject to it, part of the mind

Already responded to this in like 10 other comments

So hi, choose to think differently or maybe do you deserve being used as a slave or a nice visit with Dr. Mengele

Also Already responded to this in 10 other comments, nothing new. You people look at things so 1 dimensionally, both harm so both evil. No, one harms innocent child, the other harms monsters that actively planned their attacks. Using this logic no one should pay for any crime and everyone should do as they please with no repercussion

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We're trying to tell you that's psychopathology. Please seek help immediately. Not for you, because you'll likely never see anything wrong with it. ASPD and psychopathology aren't generally responsive to therapy. The best we, the rest of society, can hope for is that you get help before you act on those thoughts, if you haven't, already.

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I'm wrong then prove it. Because as of now the only legitimate argument I've heard in these comments is how the people in power would use this to frame non offenders

As of now I've seen nothing but sympathy and defense for child rapists with no explanation as to why they deserve it.

The best we, the rest of society, can hope for is that you get help before you act on those thoughts, if you haven't, already.

Bro i don't know if you realize this but your inadvertently saying you think the world would be better if pedophiles where apart of society. You realize how fucked that sounds right? Your acting as though ridding the world of child rapists is a bad thing and to that I have to ask, how exactly? How is making spaces safer for children a bad idea?

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one can convince you of anything, because you're psycho, and no one is saying that. We are saying that thinking doesn't separate you at all from those you seek to torture, and why would anyone try to convince a psychopath of that when they are convinced they're so. much. more. clever, than anyone else? Go read a few advanced abpsych textbook's entries for psychopathology and sociopathy for better arguments, but you probably would argue with those, too.

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

No one can convince you of anything, because you're psycho

Literally a text book definition of a kafka trap.

You have nothing bro. You've lost and now your scrapping the bottom of the barrel trying to not look like a complete buffoon.

Listen to this, your a pedophile who likes to rape children. How exactly? Well I can't explain it to you because all child rapists are convinced they aren't... Now your a child rapist.

You people get so upset whenever your own logic gets used against you, that you have to resort to the lowest forms of "defense"