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Valve has now filed for a trademark for Deadlock, the hero shooter it refuses to admit exists (www.pcgamer.com)
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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It just occurred to me a reason TF3 can't happen in a satisfying way.

You couldn't make TF3 with a different cast of "heroes", right? It would just be unsettling and disrespectful. TF's DNA is their lovable characters.

Not a single TF playable character is a woman. That was on-par for the 2000s, but definitely not acceptable in the 2020s when your competitors are OW and Valorant which both have a diverse cast with (AFAIK) gender parity. Keeping the cast but adding 9 women and 2 enbies would feel extremely performative and like the new PCs are inferior "tack-on" characters.

TF3 would either be problematic or desacralized. IMO making new IP is the right call.

[–] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Huh? That's not a problem at all. TF1 had a totally different cast to TF2, actually. Fully replacing the cast would be par for the course, and that definitely doesn't preclude them from making a full set of new characters

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Huh, TIL, I thought these were the same characters.

[–] jose1324@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

Did you forget to switch to your alt account?

[–] eyeon@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

There was the original quake/quake world team fortress, ported reasonably accurately to halflife as TFC officially

Unofficially pretty much every game that was moddable at the time had some variant of fortress. unreal fortress, quake 3 fortress, enemy territory fortress(basically q3f but made free by porting to a free game).. and even when halflife2 came out that trend continued and the community made Fortress's Forever.

All of those games feel very much the same, some with slight additions, but all clearly the same 'DNA'.

And then there's TF2 which released with a last minute decision to remove both grenades and the class specific utility grenade. And RNG crits. And then over time they even added ways you could majorly change how each character played as cosmetic only hats were replaced with things like turning the demonan into a melee knight..

I'm not saying all of this to still be rehashing complaints about TF2 in 2024.. but just to add some context when I say that TF2 was a huge departure from the DNA of Team Forteess, and it's totally okay for TF3 to change things up yet again.

Many TF2 diehards will consider it disrespectful and complain, just as I made these same complaints when TF2 released. But it will be okay. TF3 would get its own audience and get a new generation loving it the way you love TF2 and I loved TF