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CEO of Zoom: what if we take deepfake fraud, right, and make it a push-button feature of Zoom (www.theverge.com)

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What’s he smoking?

Whatever he's smoking, it's strength rating is at least: "make it seem like a good idea to call employees back from remote work despite remote work facilitation being the one thing we sell".

So that's gotta be some strong stuff.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the important thing about Zoom is that it was the lucky winner of the pandemic. Could have been Google Meet, could have been any of their other competitors, but somehow everyone just converged on Zoom.

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Having worked in an IT department in 2020, it wasn't just random. Zoom was stable for large meetings and scaled pretty smoothly up to a thousand participants. And it's a standalone product and it had better moderator tools.

MS Teams often got problems over around 50 to 80 participants. Google Meet worked better but its max was way lower than Zoom (250?). I tried a couple of other competitors, but none that matched up (including Jitsi, unfortunately).

So if you were at an IT department in an organization that needed to have large meetings and were looking for a quick solution that also worked for your large meetings , Zoom was in 2020 the best choice. And big organisations choices means everyone has to learn that software, so soon enough everyone knows how to use Zoom.

They were at the right place, had the better product, gained a dominant position. And now they are tossing all that away. C'est la late stage capitalism!

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago

Also according to my freelance interpreter parents:

Compared to other major tools, was also one of the few not too janky solutions for setting up simultaneous interpreting with a separate audio track for the interpreters output.

Other tools would require big kludges (separate meeting rooms, etc…), unlikely in to be working for all participants across organizations, or require clunky consecutive translation.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

MS Teams often got problems over around 50 to 80 participants

As honourable mention, MS Teams is also uncontrollable, overblown jank that

doesn't work in a browser despite being built in Electron
is complete shite on Android, despite bring built in Electron
barely works on Windows, thanks to being built in Electron but despite the fact that it's built by the Windows people

And even at its best behaviour it randomly loses messages while eating up way more CPU and RAM than possibly justifiable for a glorified IRC UI.

No wonder Zoom won out over that one, if you tried to use Teams in 2020 you barely could.