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Amazing how reportedly 0 combatants were killed while this rescue happened.
At least one IDF soldier was killed.
The Hamas dead isn't counted separately from the civilians. Never have been. The casualty numbers you see reported is always civilians + Hamas.
Hamas doesn't wear uniforms, so it's difficult for a third party to make an assessment on how many combatants have been killed in this war. Also there's a war happening, so that makes things difficult even when the combatants are all wearing uniforms.
how many had weapons?
Don't check the serial numbers on the weapons tho 👉👈
They have weapons stashed all over the place so they can blend in with the civilian population when changing positions. Which is why they don't wear uniforms.
Smart strategy... if you don't have any concern for the lives of civilians. Which Hamas doesn't.
No it's a great strategy either way we just generally assume the other side isn't jumping with glee to murder indiscriminately.
Yes Hamas wants the IDF to kill indiscriminately. It's why they don't wear uniforms. That's the whole point of how they operate.
You're missing the point. The general idea is that an modern organized army would not fire into civilians, you know morality being a thing and all. The IDF doing it anyway proves Hamas point, they're not seen as people by the Israeli government anymore. You wouldn't fire indiscriminately into a crowd a sheep to kill the wolf, why would you do the same with people.
The point you're missing is that the tactics of Hamas has resulted in the IDF not being able to distinguish civilians from combatants. There's a reason why non-uniformed combatants are considered differently (they're basically just criminals) under international law than uniformed combatants. Because everyone knows when wars are fought by combatants who don't wear uniforms, there's a massive increase in civilian casualties.
You're a 19 year old in a truck and someone is running towards you as fast as they can. You have seconds to determine whether that person is a civilian desperate to get food, or a combatant that's running towards you to kill you. Both the civilians and the combatants are dressed in the exact same style of clothing. You're scared and have seconds to make a decision that will either end someone else's life or end your own life. What happens next?
You can't understand why it's criminal for combatants to not wear uniforms? If Hamas cared about their people they'd be wearing uniforms. But Hamas has successfully monetized the deaths of Palestinian civilians which is why they do what they do.
I haven't missed it at all. Duh. That's still not an excuse to kill in crowds.
That's not what's happening here and you know it.
You know the IDF has plain clothes units right? You know who's made more? Israel, you know who historically has paid Hamas, Israel. Who stands to gain the most, Israel.
Fun question, is Hamas killing civilians in countries they're not actively at war in? No? So that's just Israel increasing border tensions then.. mmm
Cut the shit bud, you know your argument is shitty and immoral..
so the children were killed because..?
Because Hamas cowards deliberately fire at an enemy army for locations where there are children.