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[–] iByteABit@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The EU needs to wake up and go hard on companies and industries. No mercy, no half-assing, just legislate the absolute shit out of them for once so that maybe our children can survive and live in not so terrible conditions, because not so terrible is the best we can hope for at this point.

The rest of the world too obviously, but the EU seems the most likely to do so.

[–] DoubleMjay@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's what we are trying to do. But the fossil fuel lobby is still very strong and parties on the right are weaponizing every legal decision to polarise the people. Take the new (still in progress) german heating law for example; It wants to replace the installation of older oil/gas heaters with efficient heating pumps/district heating/hybrid (among other things, but that is the most important thing).

Populist media and right wing parties used this to stir up the people. ("the goverment is outlawing your heater, you need to replace it now or loose your home..." etc.) Simple stuff like that; but it's working - the right is on the rise. And they are, of course, completely against man made climate change.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I been following Tony Seba for years.

He puts good videos out on YouTube.

People naturally are unable to understand exponentials but he goes through the maths and shows that the world is going to change fast.

I have more faith in mathematics and economics than I do in massive societal change.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the air pollution happens in the developing countries. The EU would have to go imperial to force industries in such parts of the world under similar regulations.

Innovation and investment is the way to go.

In a lot of countries the electrical supply is unreliable, going down regularly

Innovate to create full-scale renewable grids (best if they can run decentralised when necessary) and invest in implementing these solutions world-wide

Use incentives, like trade agreements for countries, regions, or companies that implement the green tech to make it worthwhile

[–] Koordinator_O@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So the EU goes hard on those companies and then what? the just transfer to another countrie that doesn't. Result would be the same polution but throught customs and transportation prices in the EU would rise. Maybe the consumption behavior will change through that what could be beneficial but the overall situation with current inflation and such would get much worse. I'm not sure if this is the best way to engage this problem.

[–] Contravariant@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You want the EU to go hard because you've given up on the rest of the world?

I mean I get where you're coming from but that's not even remotely resembling a solution.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but as far as U.S.A. is concerned, it’s not a nation anymore it’s a corporation. U.S.A. rewards the worst of the worst and it’s too late for anything to change here.

[–] iByteABit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

No, like I said this also applies to everyone else, I just personally don't think it's going to happen..