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"Genocide is good if an Anti-Imperialist Country(tm) is doing it!" (lemmy.world)
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It's even better - by invading Ukraine to steal their territory and mineral wealth Russia is quite literally behaving as an Imperialist nation, something confirmed by their own Propaganda which talks of Ukraine as something "which was always part of Russia" as well as by their interference in the internal affairs of other ex-Soviet Union nations such as Georgia.

Imperialism isn't limited to only conquering far away lands, even if that has been the most common form of it in Europe and for the US, and the Soviet Union itself can be considered an Empire, having been formed by Russia conquering other countries whilst maintaining control over several vassal nations.

Communism is just as Imperialist as the rest - it's only the style of Propaganda justifying the conquest of other countries that differs - which explains why it's so easy for the "Communists" who are mere parrots of the Soviet or Maoist propaganda (rather than independent thinkers) to side with Russia's Imperialism.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Russia has been an expansionist force for centuries - long before the October revolution. There's various explanations for this such as Russia constantly feelings vulnerable due to the vast plains to their west without any natural Geographics barriers. But instead of forging literally any true alliances or building any soft power with the nations in that area they just constantly antagonize all of them. The one country they have on side is Belarus and that's because they have to constantly prop up its leader against the will of their people. No good will, only force.

The current former Soviet countries in that area have the distinct memory of living under Russian control during the USSR and shockingly - want no part of it again. So they join NATO. Voluntarily. To the tankie if someone wants to join NATO, no matter how rational their reasoning for doing so, it must be because the CIA and "the West" tricked them into it. Smaller countries and the people who live there never have any agency.

After the USSR , western political discourse was full of talk about whether NATO is obsolete. Russia did everything possible to prove that wrong.

[–] ralphio@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

From the historians I've read, the thinking is that most preindustrial colonial projects including Russia were vanity projects by rulers with little strategic thinking. As for the USSR it seems the goal was twofold. Spreading Soviet ideology and giving the USSR the resources to be a global player. It seems with the Russian Federation it's mostly about getting the resources to stay as a global player, but it the whole picture probably will only be clear in hindsight like any historical event.