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A district judge in Wisconsin has sided with an 11-year-old trans girl over her use of the girls’ toilets and temporarily blocked school officials from preventing her access.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're forgetting the trough system in stadiums on top of ignoring the recurring point I've been making: bathrooms aren't inherently sexual. The injection of sexual acts and sexual crimes by accepting the jdea of trans people using the appropriate bathroom is the original disingenuous stance, so I'm sorry if you're taken aback. I don't meant to upset you if my fatigue at the "trans equals and enables peeping pervs" perspective. And come on now: A transwoman in a women's bathroom isn't using a urinal. A transman in a man's bathroom is also not using a urinal. There shouldn't be a problem there, but somehow having to know the genitalia of people shitting is less weird than letting

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You’re forgetting the trough system in stadiums

I mean this is the first you've mentioned stadiums, so there's that. I've never heard of urinals being in a female bathroom at a stadium. What stadium has troughs in the female bathrooms?

recurring point I’ve been making: bathrooms aren’t inherently sexual.

No one is saying they are. Apparently this is really difficult for you. The overwhelmingly large percentage of sexual crimes are committed by men (like 99%) and opportunity is one of the biggest factors in it. By allowing men to just openly use womens "safe spaces" you're inviting opportunity for more sexual assaults to take place. This isn't rocket science.

If a pervert male wants to take photos of little girls on the toilet, do you agree that allowing him access to the female toilets presents him with more opportunity to do it? If not, explain your reasoning, because I can already say it doesn't make sense.

We're also not just talking about bathrooms. Changing rooms, sexual assault centres, gyms, doctors, etc - the same applies, and once you start making legislation that takes away womens protections to sex based safe spaces in one area, you take them away for all.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're starting at the pervert male and are working backwards, which is kind of the problem here.

That pervert male is already just as capable and already doing the things you're fantasizing about, which has nothing to do with trans people using their correspondingly accurate bathroom. It's really the bathroom of least resistance they're seeking, and somehow sex crimes are being displaced onto them.

The hypothetical sexual pervert is not a credible argument here.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, they’re not. Pervert men aren’t going in to women’s prisons and impregnating women. Pervert men aren’t going to rape crisis centres and assaulting women.

With allowing anyone into these spaces, you’re now giving them access and the ability to do that.

The bathroom of least resistance is and always will be the bathroom of their sex.