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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

To my knowledge, no one has a consistent definition as to what qualifies as ultra-processed, even yours there is a bit non-standard. We're pretty sure twinkies are ultra processed, but then there's questions on whether something like ground beef even with minimal/zero additives counts as processed or if we do add things to it, is it ultra-processed? Vegetable soup is probably pretty alright, but hey, it might qualify as 'ultra-processed', the qualifiers for it are a mess.

I agree with the sentiment they're going for, i.e., we probably shouldn't be eating twinkies as the cornerstone of our diet, but I wonder how these studies have shown how dangerous ultra-processed foods are when none of them seem to include a definition that you can consistently tie back to discrete items. It feels like we would all likely be better served by identifying the problematic elements (like the hydrogenated fats/etc) within the ultra-processed foods and focusing the conversation on those.

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The definitions are from the article.

I agree the focus should be on the things we already analyze, like amounts of sugar, fat, and nutrients

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I'm aware they're from the article, but even you implied that those were a bit vague which was the point I was trying to strengthen.