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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Those aren't free, though.

At least in California I had to pay 26 bucks for mine 10 years ago

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mine was $10. I agree they should be free but let's be real here $10-$26 isn't prohibitively expensive, my homeless friends would beg more than that in a few hours, even if you have to save a dollar a check that's still doable for something that by all accounts you do need, and for more than just "voting."

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying that you believe some people should have to resort to begging for money in order to vote? I mean, I know you said you think they should be free but the rest of the paragraph makes it seem like you feel people having to pay to vote is okay.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

More like "we should be helping people get IDs" but cute you ignored the "i think they should be free" for good boy internet points.

Seriously you think "black people can't get IDs" and instead of "we should help them get them" your first thought is to feel sorry for them and do nothing other than say "well we shouldn't have them for voting?" What's wrong with you? Again, they need IDs for more than just voting.

Frankly, if we did provide everyone with an ID like we should, what then would be your argument against it? Would it still be racist?

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Me: "I know you said you think they should be free..."

You: "...you ignored the "i think they should be free"..."

Wait, what? You've already started out with false statements, but let's continue:

You: "Seriously you think "black people can't get IDs"..."

When did I ever say that? What I was referring to was poor people that might have to decide between eating or paying for an ID. I never said that the poor people were black. That racist stuff was conjured up in your head. I'm actually offended by your assumption.

You ..."instead of "we should help them get them" your first thought is to feel sorry for them and do nothing other than say "well we shouldn't have them for voting?"

Again you're misunderstanding (or intentionally trolling) what I was actually saying. I was saying that your opinion that it's okay to charge people money to be able to vote was the antithesis of democracy. Everyone should be able to vote regardless of their socioeconomic status.

You: Frankly, if we did provide everyone with an ID like we should, what then would be your argument against it?

Again, I think your reading comprehension is amiss because we've been in agreement that ID should be free to all.

You: Would it still be racist?

I would like to once again remind everyone that I never mentioned race once. I was referring to poor people that can't afford an ID. Someone else made it racial.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ignored, dismissed, use whatever word you like idgaf.

If you didn't say it reread the thread, that's what we're talking about over here. Dudes are posting whole ass ACLU links that actually are pretty convincing, catch up junior.

Again you ignore or dismiss the "free" part. Are you intentionally doing that or is your memory about the quality of a goldfish's?

OH so NOW we all agree it should be free but I want to charge money? Get your fucking story straight you pompous ass.

Again catch up. But fine "if we did provide IDs like we should, would it still be classist?"

Fucking christ lmao. You ok?