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this won't stop the fact it'll keep happening and keep making people sad
But feeling guilty as well as sad would be even worse
vystopia isnt any fun either
I'd rather be an unhappy vegan than a happy meat eater.
I'd rather be happy
Yeah maybe but the infohazard got to us. We know too much and now we can only really choose between being a guilty meat eater or a depressed vegan.
lets see if i can help you:
knowledge is a justified, true belief. if you disbelieve something you can't "know it". similarly, if your justification is insufficient, you can't know it. finally, if it actually isn't true (which would be a good reason it lacks justification), you also can't know it.
i can't help with the depression but i might be able to help alleviate the guilt. is there some particular fact that you think is the crux of it all, which, if you didn't believe it, or found your justification was insufficient, or just that it's not true, you would be happier? i'm pretty good at evaluating positive claims and determining whether they are rational.
You sound like queer people in the 80s and 90s.
Now, acceptance is the default position for most folk.
as a queer person in the now I do not think this is comparable, at all.
Well, as a queer vegan. Its really hard not to notice that bigots and carnists say the same sort of things.
"You're just trying to feel special." "It's unnatural, your gentials/teeth were evolved for a specific use". "Stop trying to convert kidsto your cult." "Queer/vegan people always think they are so enlighted."
But more to the point, defeatism is always an easy excuse to do nothing. But individual actions can have ripple effects through generations. Do you think that those at stonewall would expect an entire month celebrating their actions? Enough people making a choice not to support animal agriculture puts the concept out of business. Do I expect that or liberation soon? No. But it's gotten LIGHTYEARS better on both fronts in my own lifetime.