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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I honestly see why. While I love star trek, it has a very strong power structure "with the right people in power", as if power itself wouldn't corrupt people. The admirals may not always be right in the beginning but they accept their wrongs and have no bad intentions and the heroes are always celebrated by the establishment.

This can be understood as "this is the perfect world where even authorities are good" or as "I told you, authorities are the good guys". I, as a left libertarian, prefer Farscape (and still watch every star trek show)

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago

Exactly! The TOS/TNG era are "benevolent authoritarianism" and conservatives, of course, see themselves as the good guys. "If things only went our way, our society would be perfect, just like Star Trek!"

I think Edington said it best. Paraphrasing, "[The Federation] are even worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious you assimilate people I think they don't even know."

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I, as a left libertarian, would probably end up in the Maquis

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What''s left liberterian even means?

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Anarchist or anarchist adjacent

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're the OG libertarians. The right explicitly stole the term and celebrated doing so.

In short, they're a branch of anarchism.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So neo liberal economic is just a right wing spinoff of libertarianism?

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't call it a spinoff but rather a ripoff. There might be few parallels but basically left Libertarians are against all hierarchies, including the state. Right Libertarian are against the state and want to build state like structures but privatized.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

What''s left liberterian even means?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never thought of it that way, but you do have a point. I still think it's more pew pew than anything else though.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

Steve Shives (I hope I got the spelling correct) made a video why conservatives like star trek and a part of it is they see it as stories of other worlds and by doing so ignore all the allegorical implications. "A planet where people have the false gender assigned to them at birth? How truly alien!"

And to be fair: escapism is a legitimate goal of scifi and media in general. You watch scifi to enter a different world, for at least an hour a week be free of all your problems in the here and now.