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Does anything truly get better than moving soldiers around on a little map? (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

invaded by hordes of tribes at the same time.

Too much treachery. Maybe if they stopped assassinating their rulers and managed their funds better by continuing to properly fund their military and continuing to pay off the tribes they could've lasted a bit longer.

It's so wild that they survived the Year of the 4 (and 5 and 6) Emperors when you think about it. The entire empire nearly collapses in the third century and what do they do to the man responsible for restoring it? They assassinate him. Or if it's not the emperor then it's the head of the military who had been responsible for holding off multiple tribes, negotiating with them and attempting to keep the city of Rome from being ransacked (unsuccessfully). And then you assassinate the emperor responsible and then the new emperor decides to provoke the biggest tribe of them all.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it was a good thing that the Roman Empire collapsed. I just wish it had happened before empowering a cult.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was. There are no good empires.

Of course, instead of the Republic reforming you got a thousand years of warlords calling themselves kings, but that's how it goes when people listen to Popes.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, though I'm learning about Japan's history and, as much as I don't like how things went in European history, it could have been much worse.

Like one big moment for me was when I realized that the whole seppuku ritual thing was actually rational and intended to prevent an even worse outcome.

A European King (or church) could only kill so many people even with trials before unrest would start up. A Japanese Lord could just politely request subordinates kill themselves at their earliest convenience.