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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't convince people we need their product. We don't have a choice but use their product. I don't make ICEs cheaper than EVs. I don't get to choose what my power company decides to use to generate electricity. I don't get to tell corporations across the business spectrum not to use plastic.

Those are not choices I get to make. Or you.

Also, it's interesting how you skipped from people to governments as if there's no difference.

I'm not sure why you think any significant number of people like oil companies. Do you have any hard data to support that or is it just this sort of conjecture?

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have you seen people coal rolling? I see it all the time. I get the feeling they love oil companies. People who buy huge, gas guzzling SUVs and oversized trucks they dont need dont seem to have an issue with them. Also governments are made up of people.... often elected officials that were VOTED for. I'm not saying everyone loves oil companies. But they convince enough people to like them enough to keep making money.
And that lobbying I mentioned earlier? Yeah, that's what keeps the rest of us locked into using their products whether we want to or not. They convinced someone, somewhere to stifle competition like EVs.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Do you think any of those people will see an event like this and change their minds? Those people don't even give a shit about other humans, let alone an ancient monument.

I will continue to maintain that pissing people off is not a good way to get them to take your side. I keep asking people if they've ever intentionally pissed off someone who disagreed with them into agreeing with them and no one has said yes so far.