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[–] m13@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No shit. That’s why it’s a constant ongoing effort to build communism. The current system is leading us to certain annihilation.

[–] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why wouldn't communism lead to cancer like growth? Wouldn't political leaders be incentivized by the masses for never ending quality of life improvements?

Money is not the problem, it's people. If replace the system, nothing changes. If we want sustainability, that needs to be desired by the masses, and that is achievable without communism.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because once you reach a certain level, growth isn't required, you just divide the resources you have to give everyone a happy life. People don't need infinite money to be happy, but they do a need a minimum amount, studies have shown that. Capitalism denies that minimum amount to a lot of people because of its focus on accumulating and concentrating that wealth.

[–] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who decides when growth isn't required?

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

So wouldnt a sugnificant number of people want more than they have?

[–] m13@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

“People” are not the problem. That’s Malthusian garbage. Capitalism is the problem.

Human beings use complex language and are capable of learning and developing culture.

Capitalism is a system that teaches and enforces greed, competition and exploitation. Capitalism is a system that demands infinite growth for the sake of growth. It’s nonsensical, and obvious that such a system leads to over-exploitation and collapse. We are currently the way we are because we’ve been forced to under this system.

We are capable of change, and learning to build communities and societies based on mutual aid, cooperation, and living in harmony with the world we live in.

If we start to build such communities we will learn to cooperate just as the capitalist system has taught us to be greedy and exploit each other for fear of ending up without the means to house and feed ourselves.

Why wouldn’t communism lead to cancer like growth? Because the objective isn’t endless expansion to make some imaginary line go up and hand over all the wealth to a small number of people. It’s to manage our world based on good science and achieving objectives that lead to a sustainable world in which all people’s basic needs are met.

There are countless ways of building communism, and all of them require constant work. And yes it’s true that if implemented in an authoritarian manner it would lead to a bad outcome (still not as bad as our certain extinction under any capitalist system). Anarchism (and there are many schools of thought within anarchism) gives us many tools to build communism in a libertarian manner where we keep each other in check, ensuring that no one person gains power over others.

Look at Rojava, revolutionary Catalonia, the Ukrainian Free Territory, the Shinmin Autonomous Region. These societies can work, expanded, and built upon if given half a chance.