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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That's what they said last time. I'll hold my nose and vote for him but I don't expect anything to improve and I'm not going to stop bitching about it.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

At this point, I'll settle for "hold things together without sliding into pure fascism". Staying in a crappy place you are is better than going somewhere worse.

But yes, you should be doing whatever you can to make things where you are better in the meantime.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

“hold things together without sliding into pure fascism

Except we've been doing that since 2016, for lots of even 2012 after we felt let down by Obama.

But take a second and think. Are we closer to the threat of pure fascism now than in 2016?

It's just a question of how fast we slide, which long term is unsustainable. We need to at least stop the slide and we just have t been doing that.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the "staying in the crappy place" pushes more people to accept fascists because they sing a tune of redemption, while the status quo still chokes you. Unfortunately that's never the right answer, but people aren't logical.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It definitely pushes some people to fascists - that's how Hitler came to power, after all - but not necessarily all. Unfortunately, our very broken electoral system gives fascists a built-in advantage, as the GOP is severely overrepresented in the government.