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Yeah, people are not going to stop taking vacations and stop consuming as they have been. Those who calling to do something, I bet they can't even downsize their lifestyle. Let's talk about co2 per capita. Let's talk about Americans with 2+ cars n bigger cars. Let's talk about food waste in America. America is probably one of the most wasteful country on this planet.
I am a hard-core green dude. Been at for about 15 years ago. Kind of gave up couple years ago. Not worth making my life inconvenient when the whole country doesn't do jqcksht about it.
Do you really think this issue lies with the consumer lol
I get this comment a lot. A way to make yourself feel better? I know who you going to blame next, the big corps? Remember who they selling to. You! So yes, consumers are to blame. When Joe wants a bigger truck when he can get a prius or take the public transit, guess who's to blame? Fighting climate change is all about inconvenience. Yall can't handle the inconvenience and cost of a greener lifestyle. It's much more convince to blame the government, the big corps, and the rich.
Consumers are partially to blame but remember corporations brainwash the living shit out of people. They've effectively stomped out the last bit of hope we had. Go to any YouTube video that mentions a "heat wave" and you'll see what I'm talking about in the comment section.
The consumers are who these companies sell to. The normal people drive cars, buy plastic, eat meat and dairy, produce unnecessary waste. Of course consumers have a huge responsibility in this.
It is pretty depressing, I agree. You can take heart however in knowing that collectively, we as people cannot do very much. The best thing we can do is elect politicians who will put pressure on the real villains here: the 100 or so corporations that make up 70% of the total Co2 emissions.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-10-biggest-carbon-dioxide-emitting-firms-in-the-world.html
Who do you believe consumes all the oil 9 out of the 10 of these companies in your list produce?
Everyone. I am very aware of that. But you can't expect the whole world to just change from the individual up - it isn't realistic, because the current state of our civilization requires it. Going around making people feel guilty about using a gas powered car is not helping anything, if anything it hurts the movement because we could come off as assholes, and then no one listens us. People have to like you if you are going to convince anyone of anything.
The only real, substantial thing we can do is get people to elect progressives at this point. That or start disrupting the actions of these companies in any way possible. Telling my parents not to go on vacation though? They'll think I've been brainwashed by AOC and go even further into their trench.
For the record though, I'm not trying to be angry - kudos to you for being conscientious of your impact on the environment and your passion for getting the word out about it.
Everyone. I am very aware of that. But you can't expect the whole world to just change from the individual up - it isn't realistic, because the current state of our civilization requires it. Going around making people feel guilty about using a gas powered car is not helping anything, if anything it hurts the movement because we could come off as assholes, and then no one listens us. People have to like you if you are going to convince anyone of anything.
The only real, substantial thing we can do is get people to elect progressives at this point. That or start disrupting the actions of these companies in any way possible. Telling my parents not to go on vacation though? They'll think I've been brainwashed by AOC and go even further into their trench.
For the record though, I'm not trying to be angry - kudos to you for being conscientious of your impact on the environment and your passion for getting the word out about it.
Who do you think hosts the server you are posting on right now?