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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And according the abysmal turnout and the fact that starmer's labour couldn't even really outcompete Corbyn's in the popular vote despite the collapse of the Tories, the people naturally want a watered down version of the Tory austerity platform and enlightened centrism?

If there's one thing the UK election will show you, the people want someone to fucking do something about their cost of living problems, not play middle of the road and keep the status quo. They go to the far right because of that.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Politics is about compromise to be a best fit to the will of the people. Starmer is a better fit to the overall will of the people in the UK. Corbyn might have been a better fit to what the left wanted, but are you really claiming he was closer to the overall will of all of the people of the UK than Starmer is?

Democracy is about following the will of the people, not imposing your will upon the people.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Considering he got 40 percent in one of his elections and Starmer didn't even get 35 percent in this one, yeah I guess I am.

At least I have a metric I'm pointing to when I'm saying what the consensus is, instead of generally pulling it out of my ass.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the metrics, Starmer is PM and Corbyn is just an independent nobody that will effect zero positive change.

But talking big and doing nothing is what socialism is all about these days, isn't it?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, let's thank Starmer for his electoral coup of getting Farage to collapse the Tories while being unable to increase labour's vote share. He's a real dooer.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 months ago

Starmer is PM and Corbyn lost to Boris Johnson. Can't change the facts no matter how much it hurts.