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[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Jokes on you Anon! If everyone is a vampire then who's blood do you suck?

[–] SpacePirate@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

You farm the remaining humans like livestock? We mastered factory farming 100 years ago, no reason things need to change just because the animals can talk back.

(banned from /c/veganism)

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay but among those people who choose to remain human, how many of us would be okay with donating blood every two weeks in exchange for food and rent?

Think about it. If the vampires have all the power, why would they kill their food source when the longer they let their food source live the more food they get out of it?

Let us tra-la-la and have happy-go-lucky existences, which will probably make our blood taste better to them, and they can spend their eternities competing for resources or whatever makes a vampire happy after the first 500 years.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] odium@programming.dev 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure there are multiple already in existence

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 4 months ago

There's even a movie

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been saying this since I was a kid. Every time I see a blood donation place. That's a vampire organization and you can't convince me otherwise :D

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

i'm always tempted to sing:

in the gloom of mighty cities,
'mid the roar of whirling wheels,
we are toiling on like chattle slaves of old
and our masters hope to keep us
ever, thus, beneath their heels
and to coin our very lifeblood into gold.
[–] kuadhual@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

There's one already, where the vampire is a head of state and religius leader. (Luminous Valentine)

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact, human blood can be vegan, as long as the human is consenting

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

the definition of veganism has nothing to do with consent, only exploitation.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't consent imply the absence of exploitative forces?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

exploitation and consent are unrelated. I exploit water resources every day, and consent is an absurd topic to raise in this context. the definition of veganism requires the abstention from exploitation of animals for food. there is no exemption made for consenting animals

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exploit does mean "use/utilize" but I assumed the common subtext of "use unfairly or in a manner not conducive to overall welfare"

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

the ambiguity does not seem to be helpful in defining veganism, and the definition should probably be updated

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The way that people use the word "exploit" when talking about living things is different from the way we use it when talking about nonliving things. It implies a lack of consent from the one being exploited.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

consenting exploitation is still exploitation.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And if I'm consenting, then it isn't exploitation when a hot vampire gives me the biggest fucking hickey

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

consenting exploitation is still exploitation

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/exploit

Scroll down to verbs. When you're talking about someone else, there's an implication of unfairness. This is why vegans don't eat animals or use animal products. If the animals could consent, there would be nothing wrong with it.

I reiterate: it would not be unfair for Astarion or Lenore to drain several pints of blood from my neck

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The definition from the vegan society doesn't mention unfairness at all. it prohibits exploitation carte blanche

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And exploitation, when talking about living things, implies unfairness and nonconsent

You realize the word becomes entirely useless if we use your definition, yeah? Virtually every interaction between living things becomes exploitation under your silly definition. It's not very useful. I'll stick with the more widely used definition, wherein it would be exploitation for Nosferatu to suck my blood, but not Mavis Dracula or her dad

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

Virtually every interaction between living things becomes exploitation under your silly definition.

yea. it is. but the vegan society's definition doesn't prohibit exploiting living things: it prohibits exploiting animals.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

the word becomes entirely useless if we use your definition, yeah?

i disagree. i think it draws sharp contrasts that help us understand both the standard and whether we are meeting it.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 4 months ago

I use ~~Arch~~ plant based alternatives BTW.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

This was part of the plots in the movies Blade & Blade 2.

The problem becomes apparent in this film: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0433362/

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

We mastered factory farming 100 years ago

Speak for yourself! I haven't even begun practicing yet!

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I'm still salty that PETA stole their web domain from People Eating Tasty Animals.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He would quickly become pro-immigration

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Or a bunch of redneck vampires invade Mexico

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Quick! Book a pitch meeting with the heads of all the major studios!

I'm thinking Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter meets Here Comes Honey Boo Boo meets Duck Dynasty!

[–] Damage@feddit.it 0 points 4 months ago

Haven't you watched From Dusk 'til Dawn? Vampires come FROM Mexico