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Something I'm noticing is that while America continues their pattern of climate denial and destructive hyper-individualism, China - for all its flaws - seems to be leading the charge on the single greatest existential challenge of our time.
China is rapidly expanding renewables and green tech. They're on track to become the world's renewable superpower. While Americans absentmindedly whine and complain about society improving, China gets right to work on constructing a green national infrastructure to actually address the root causes of the crisis.
China understands collective action and planning are the only way humanity can overcome existential threats. China's top-down governance, however authoritarian some claim, efficiently marshalled resources to minimize devastation during the COVID pandemic, but what's possibly more important is their collective culture, the populace's eager willingness to listen to the authorities, and make personal sacrifices for the benefit of society as a whole. None of that "freedumb" nonsense or pearl-clutching. Imagine if the US mandated decisive actions, not "choose your own experiment!"
This is serious; we cannot rest on our laurels and we cannot go back to brunch. We haven't the luxury of half measures. Rather, we need the appropriate sort of complete and holistic mobilization asap to transition to greener, more sustainable models. To survive impending eco-collapse will require global equity, not privileged nations hoarding pie while the rest burn. We'd be wise to learn from China's example. Obviously they're not perfect - no one is - but I think their climate policies reveal what truly ambitious climate action looks like: bold, large-scale interventions that prioritize the collective good over individual freedoms.
As the CCP seems to want to own the world and everyone in it, it only makes sense that they want to save their toys from the flames. Well, as long as they aren't Muslim, dissenters, a sovereign Taiwan, or anyone else that they don't like.
I realize that this is a kneejerk reaction, but your post's core is still 'America bad, China good, so bend over like a good sheep, stupid'.
Valid concerns, but still opportunistic propaganda disguised as concern for the world, so perhaps the message shouldn't be delivered via tankie.
That being said, try to stay cool, bud.
The Chinese Propaganda Machine is already affecting Lemmy like it did on Reddit lol.
Seriously though I'm kind of sick of it and China's lying as they make more and more coal plants and have mini environmental disasters like the rent-able electric car trend that so many companies did just to make bang over buck from the CCP over it that failed during covid.
China is not your friend nor is the friend of the world infact it is actively harmful to both human rights and the environment at large.
Anyway unlike other people I do have sources for what I claim here.
This was a great paper, I don't have a direct link though sorry.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0280-2
Here it is https://unisa.alma.exlibrisgroup.com/view/delivery/61USOUTHAUS_INST/12177058790001831 I haven't read it, just doing my part for open science. By the way, unpaywall is a great browser extension to quickly go around publishers paywalls: https://unpaywall.org/welcome
Thanks for the tip!
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china has a rapidly aging populace, an unsustainable birthrate, and far too many peasants to support - they've got a very small window of time to prepare for the collapse of the country. when it happens, they'll retreat, eastwards, to where the larger cities are (which isnt in the western 4/5ths of the current borders). that region you've highlighted will be abandoned - it doesnt really matter if it's 22c or 52c. presumably the russians or the indians will pick it up, but probably wont settle in that area.
superpower though? lol no. regional power in southeast asia, at best. manufacturing is leaving china as we speak. in 10 years most of our "made in china" stickers will be "made in nigeria", or "made in argentina"
Don't underestimate China's power to fuck things up for everyone to ensure it's survival. The CCP has shown it's willing and able to do anything they deem useful, regardless of the human cost. Uncontrolled powers in this day and age are absolutely terrifying.