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[–] DeaLikesTrains@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So you don't get a birth certificate after birth if you don't ask for it? In Germany, you can even request a new one since you're in the system if you lose it or it gets destroyed. You have to pay a little fee but that's all. Would anyone mind explaining this to me?

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They gave birth at home instead of in a hospital. Which means that there's probably no record of the child's birth and they haven't gone through the process that usually gets you a birth certificate. So they're deciding whether to go start that process for their newborn or not.

[–] DeaLikesTrains@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Ah, I get it know, thank you!

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

If you have the child at home, then there is no auto-generated birth certificate. If you're at a hospital then they're probably going to document it, and whether or not you take the piece of paper, it's in the system and can be printed out as needed.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's because the kid is registered with the Standesamt anyway. Those sovcits don't want their kids to be registered with any government agency as they are afraid this would mean something nasty for them. So pregnant sovcits try to avoid doctors, hospitals, and even midwives to prevent anyone from registering the baby in official documentation. Which means they give birth at home without any kind of medical assistence. Which in turn usually means a high (double-digit percentage, actually) risk for the baby or mother to die, but that is a risk they are willing to take.

The reasons given for not wanting the baby to be registered are not really clear - something about a fortune the government would own to the people, but somehow having a birth certificate would allow to state to withhold the money or something like that.

The whole issue is not about the piece of paper titled "Certificate of Birth", it is about being registered as "Citizen" with the name in ALL CAPS by a government entity. They consider themselves as "American Nationals" instead of "American Citizens", because "Citizens" are people ("subjects") who are "subjugated" to the government.

Does not make much sense to you? Don't worry, it does not make sense at all.

The other core believe I seem to have figured out is that they think the government owns them money - loads of money! - when they are not "American Citizens" but "American Nationals". That's why you can regularly read about sovcits trying to pay off credit card debt, the fat new pickup, the mortgage, or child support with a mysterious "voucher" or silver coins.