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Firefox enables user tracking (mstdn.social)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by wolf@lemmy.zip to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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... I mean, WTF. Mozilla, you had one job ...

Edit:

Just to add a few remarks from the discussions below:

  1. As long as Firefox is sponsored by 'we are not a monopoly' Google, they can provide good things for users. Once advertisement becomes a real revenue stream for Mozilla, the Enshittification will start.
  2. For me it is crossing the line when your browser is spying on you and if 'we' accept it, Mozilla will walk down this path.
  3. This will only be an additional data point for companies spying on you, it will replace none of the existing methodologies. Learn about fingerprinting for example
  4. Mozilla needs to make money/find a business model, agreed. Selling you out to advertisement companies cannot be it.
  5. This is a very transparent attempt of Mozilla to be the man in the middle selling ads, despite the story they tell. At that point I can just use Chrome, Edge or Safari, at least Google has expertise and the money to protect my data and sadly Chrome is the most compatible browser (no fault of Mozilla/Firefox of course).
  6. Mozilla massively acts against the interests of their little remaining user base, which is another dumb move made by a leadership team earning millions while kicking out developers and makes me wonder what will be next.
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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What do you want? A Mozilla with no income? Because then there is no libre browser.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can you imagine a world where Linux wasn't directly getting paid by Amazon to hook all your machines up to AWS? You can't! And how could vim possibly be developed without dropbox integration and sponsorship, that would never work. There is no way a world exists where Krita doesn't sell all your drawings to OpenAI, how are they going to make any money?

None of these nice things could exist if they weren't selling out their users, that's just reality.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes I get your point. Some software can run without a large income stream, on a volunteer basis.

You’re using that fact to say that Firefox also can. And if you care to look at my profile you’ll see I’ve argued time and time again that Mozilla is an overblown organisation and should be slimmed down to a couple of hundred, working solely on the browser.

I doubt, however, that you can build a modern, up-to-date browser on a volunteer basis.

How many full-time people do you think it takes?

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Linux has full time developers. Blender has full time developers. Lots of other projects have full time developers. They still don't sell my data to Google.

A web browser is a very visible piece of software, relied upon by end users, businesses and governments alike. I'm sure enough people and organizations would donate their time and money to fund this, if it existed.