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[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I honestly don’t understand why it’s a snap by default now. I’ve never got it to really function the way I want as a snap. Puts a sour taste in my mouth for Ubuntu altogether.

[–] victron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The worse thing is that is not even available as a .deb anymore (or is pretty well hidden).

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can download a .tar.bz2 from Mozilla's webpage, which you can unpack and then just launch the firefox binary inside it.

But yeah, if you want proper integration into the desktop environment, it takes some manual steps, which a .deb would do for you.

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are willing to download a .tar.bz2 from Mozilla, you can also download the .deb file from the Debian repos

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, sure. I still like to share this factoid, because not many people seem to be aware and it is pretty useful, if e.g. you want to quickly test Firefox Nightly or the new Thunderbird or whatever.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially since snaps cause tons of problems, for some reason. I actually switched to Debian a while ago because the snap Firefox kept randomly forgetting history items, cookies, settings, etc.

[–] Semmelstulle@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually the non GUI Snaps are good. I still prefer not to use snaps but they are well done. It's just the software for the average user that starts to suck on Ubuntu. Their focus silently shifted to cloud and server, not desktop. And it shows

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But why release it then? And with Firefox? I mean, if some weird niche application threw some errors under certain circumstances, fine, you can't test everything. But Firefox? I mean, OSes are just browser-enablers these days and if Ubuntu sucks at this very basic thing, it's garbage.

[–] Semmelstulle@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Canonical believes in Snap supremacy.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, as far as I can tell, when you right-click on an image and select "Save As...", that's just flat out broken on Ubuntu 22.04, due to it being shipped as a Snap.

And the Download-folder it uses, is in some random, deeply nested sub-directory of ~/snap/.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

bruh, even in flatpak it works fine

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Firefox even integrated this whole "desktop portal" concept, specifically for the file dialogs within containerized package formats.
No idea, why Canonical and/or Mozilla don't have that working for Snaps...

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. I removed the snap and installed it from tarball. Automatic updates don't work quite right so I just wrote a bash script that runs the update process for me.

[–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Automatic updates work fine for me with tar install, using kubuntu 22.