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I would for vote Kamala. I would vote for a cactus with sunglasses if it had the Democratic nomination. You would do yourself well to consider anything that is weaking the resolve of the anti-trump sentiment straight poison to your brain. We have only one job this novemeber and that is to stop trump. The Supreme Court has given him the status of king. Quit acting like your vote is sacred and start realizing your vote is your final cry before your rights are forfeited.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Here's the thing. Many of us on here agree with you, but there are many Americans who are not terminally online or politically charged as we are. Getting them to vote for an old man who is often incoherent will be difficult. We need a candidate who can get those people to actually vote, and I am not sure Biden is that guy in his current form. At the end of the day, I don't care if it's Biden or Harris or someone else, I just want to ensure that we put the best chance to win forward, and I am not convinced Biden is that person.

The real question we should be asking is, how do we motivate as many voters as possible, shit posting to people who have seen posts like this 700 times this week doesn't do that.

[–] ArugulaZ@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You've got a choice between TWO old men who are often incoherent. Why pick the one who's also the spawn of Satan?

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

His supporters aren't rational, trump could be older and less coherent than Biden and they wouldn't care. We can't measure them in the same ways, as their supporters don't look for the same things. People who will vote for trump don't care what trump sounds like, as long as it's trump. The people we need to show up and vote for Biden do care what he sounds like and how cogent he is.

This is the real problem we face. The problem isn't getting people not to vote for trump, because people will, we need people to show up and vote for someone else.

Republicans win when no one shows up, Democrats win when everyone shows up. We need to make sure the candidate for the Dems is worth showing up for.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I've answered this one. We have to seriously hammer home how bad trump is. That doesn't mean hit on every thing that makes him bad. Pick out the glaring ones, the ones that will impact your audience on a personal level.

Rule 1: Dont waste you're time on trumpers but if you do just hammer home how trump and epstein are intimately connected. It won't accomplish much but should leave every other talking point moot.

Suburban women: Trump has destroyed abortion rights and isn't finished. They will lean heavily on the economy but just remind them Trump is responsible for more debt then any president before or after him. You can also make the appeal that the strength of the dollar is dependent on the US stability and Trump is nothing but unpredictable.

College educated: Trump is a threat to democracy. Sight how his Supreme Court Justices are running a muck.

Working class: ... sorry gtg for now and watch game of thrones.

I'm just saying there is an angle to credible attack trump on every front because the main is a shit human being.