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Donald Trump has not received a poll boost in the first presidential election survey conducted since the failed assassination attempt on Saturday.

The poll, conducted by Morning Consult of 2,045 registered voters on Monday, reveals that Trump is leading Joe Biden by just one percentage point on 46 percent, compared to the president's 45 percent. The poll has a margin of error of +/- two percentage points.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're getting downvoted because thinking that Green getting 5% of the vote will cause Democrats to pull left is a laughable fantasy. Nothing that any 3rd parties do affect their decisions or their overall platform. It's all about money. You have a better chance of affecting Democratic or Republican policy if you donate a million dollars to one of their fundraisers than you do voting for Green, Libertarian, Independent, or whatever else for the rest of your entire life.

Without ranked or approval-based voting reform, nothing will ever split up the political duopoly in this country. We should be focusing our efforts on that, starting with local elections and working our way up. Down ballot races are arguably more impactful to your day-to-day life than which ass ends up in the Oval Office chair.

I get that voting while living in a state that is guaranteed to break for Trump or Biden feels like an exercise in futility. I'm not here to convince you to change your vote to Dem or Rep, you should feel entitled to do what you want with your vote, but stop pretending like throwing away your vote on the 3rd party candidate with no chance of winning and patting yourself on the back is some noble endeavor.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're getting downvoted because thinking that Green getting 5% of the vote will cause Democrats to pull left is a laughable fantasy.

If their platform, which is what Sanders watered down twice, is on every American's ballot in 2028, then the Democrats will be forced left because they can't weed out the choice in their crooked primary like they've done twice already.

The rest of your reply falsely equates my premise that Democrats will be forced left to a third party victory. It's strawman, bad faith.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You asked for an explanation and I gave you one. Keep on dreaming that the only thing keeping Democratic establishment where they are on the political spectrum is that magic 5% number you tossed out and not the oodles of cash that their corporate donors supply them to keep things as they are.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your explanation lacks nuance and includes logical fallacy. My 14 year old nephew would see right through it and be able to explain why.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I remain unconvinced.