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[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's be serious, the bank owns the place until it's all paid off.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then the government owns it after that.

[–] knightry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? Do you understand how homeownership works?

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They aren’t wrong tho. If you stop paying your taxes they will take your house away. So in the end you may “own” it but you really don’t have full control, which raises the question on who really owns the land.

In the end the government has the control. Do you really own it?

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't pay your taxes and have any assets, will a court seize them if you refuse to pay? Sure. A private company can sue you if you don't pay for services and a court may also seize assets if you lose and refuse to pay. Do you own the assets?

Yes, obviously.

Hey guys, I found the anarchocapitalist.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which makes you a slave to the government by virtue of taxes.

I’ll repeat it to the slow folks in the back. If the government can seize your property then you never owned it from the beginning.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

As I say to all anarcho-capitalists: If you want to live on the land and not use any infrastructure whatsoever, then be my guest, you wouldn't need to pay taxes if you don't have any income 👍

Here's a great series by AdamSomething for why arachocapitalism is stupid: https://youtu.be/HTN64g9lA2g

If you want to participate in society, taxes are the fees needed to keep it going. Funnily enough we live in a society with laws and concesequnces for breaking them.

If you live in the US, it's understandable why taxes bother you because your infrastructure is crumbling, but that's because your voting system sucks and you keep electing shitty governments. Taxes themselves aren't to blame.

[–] PixelProf@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That and expropriation/eminent domain, etc. Even if you pay your taxes, if the government needs it, they have processes to take it.

I'm not saying it's an inherently bad thing, but it's another one of those important things to realize is already present if anyone wants to argue for/against certain government reforms.