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[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, so you want a browser extension that tracks you… so you can avoid Mozilla not tracking you??

I understand wanting the micropayments thing. I want that as well. But you’re literally advocating tracking here.

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The difference is that such an extension isn't reporting my traffic to a "trusted third party". My browser is doing the tracking locally and sending micropayments to sites I visit.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You said browser extension. And how do you think those payments go through? Mozilla isn’t a payment provider. And even payment providers use downstream companies to actually move the money around. So either you trust Mozilla to choose a trusted third party……orrrr you trust a third party extension to choose another trusted third party, and that one is now handling your payment information.

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's lots of ways this could be done quickly, easily, and privately. A previous attempt at this (flattr) was promising but before its time. Making Bitcoin micropayments via lightning comes to mind as a way to do this. In the past two months alone, Nostr users (decentralized twitter clone similar to mastodon) have tipped each other around a million dollars for their posts. There have been nearly three million tips in the last two months. Sending funds via lightning takes under a second for pennies or less in fees. No intermediary to report your browsing history to, no need to trust an intermediary to handle payments, no burdensome need for Mozilla to run payment infrastructure, and it all works in every country right out of the box. And there's plenty of room for this to scale since it's not limited by blockchain space.

Nostr already has a feature to automatically split up your tips according to which posts you reacted to. You can say "I want to tip $5 a month, split it up among posts I react with a heart to". This could easily be extended to which websites you visited, all websites would need to do is put their lightning url in the page source, DNS record, etc.

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