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So only one small question/wonder at the end but I guessed this might be useful written down experience for anyone who is planning to do the same.

I grabbed two 20TB Seagate Exos (ST20000NM002C) as Manufacturer Recertified for 260€ each (they are now listed at 290€ lol)

My plan was to use one in my homelab to replace the current 8TB one that was already at 60% capacity since I planned to give new family members access to it. And the other one would go to a NAS on a separate location to mirror the jellyfin media and backup the immich library.

They arrived quickly, well packaged, no apparent damage, no issues so far.

I plugged the first drive. SMART data showed 280 hours of power on and one "short offline selftest" at 232 hours without errors. I just accepted it was just probably reset by Seagate and I would never knew the true data.

So I sent it to run a extended test which claimed would take roughly 40 hours to finish. While it was running I formatted the new drive and periodically run a rsync of the data from the existing 8TB to advance the migration. The long test finished without reported issues so I was a bit relieved. I shutdown the services, run one more sync, replaced the mountpoint with the new drive and rebooted. Everything worked without hiccups.

I plugged the second drive on the same machine to locally do the first sync before moving it to the offsite nas. This one's SMART data showed 70 hours of power on. No tests logged. I started a extended test. This time it claims it would only take 26 hours. What? The drives are theoretically identical. Is this something hardcoded/configured differently on the firmware? Or is the drive just faster? For the first time I have the idea of running an quick benchmark.

# hdparm -t --direct /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST20000NM002C-3X6103_******** /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST20000NM002C-3X6103_********E /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST8000VN002-2ZM188_********

/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST20000NM002C-3X6103_********:
 Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 786 MB in  3.01 seconds = 261.46 MB/sec

/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST20000NM002C-3X6103_********:
 Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 606 MB in  3.01 seconds = 201.34 MB/sec

/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST8000VN002-2ZM188_********:
 Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 620 MB in  3.01 seconds = 206.24 MB/sec

The first 20TB drive turns out the slowest of all at 201MB/s, slightly behind the already existing 8TB at 206MB/s, but insanely behind the second 20TB drive that's supposedly identical at 261MB/s

Wait I'm an idiot of course the first drive must be slower. It's actually mounted and might be in use. So I stop all the services that read from it. The benchmark stays consistent.

Only final difference I can control is the SATA port/cable the second drive is connected. Actually I don't expect an issue with any of them but the second TB drive is connected on an HDD bay builtin onto the case because I didn't want to bother removing the screws again just to temporarily put it on an internal tray. This bay doesn't provide a cooling fan so while the first 20TB drive and the existing 8TB one are stable at around 30 degrees the second one on the outside is hitting 45 degrees. Does running it warmer make it goes faster?

  • I shutdown the fan cooling the drives and let them warm to 40 degrees. The benchmark stays consistent.
  • I swap the position of the 20TB drives. The benchmark stays consistent.
  • I finish the sync to the second now clearly faster 20TB HDD and mount it to serve the services the data they hold. The benchmark stays consistent.

So my only educated guess now is that the second drive is faster because it was recertified with barely any usage hours (maybe lived as an spare?) and was kept with stock fw while the first one was recertified after already running for thousands of hours and they kneecapped the firmware to safer values to make sure it goes through the warranty period without dying.

They seem to be good drives so can't really complain. Could have been worse since apparently I got lucky and landed an unused one.

Or maybe the opposite and I'm lucky that I at least got a battle tested one that will run for years on safer speeds.

Or maybe I'm entirely unlucky because I got a coin toss of unused drive and one with so much usage that's it's slower not because of firmware limits but because it's running on fumes and will both die in two months.

Thanks for listening to my ted talk.

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  • A different device from your home server?
  • On the same home server as the services but directly on the host?
  • On the same home server as the services but inside some VM or container?

Do you configure it manually or do you use some helper/interface like WGEasy?

I have been personally using wgeasy but recently started locking down and hardening my containers and this node app running as root is kinda...

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I'm talking not only about trusting the distribution chain but about the situation where some services dont rebuild their images using updated bases if they dont have a new release.

So per example if the particular service latest tag was a year ago they keep distributing it with a year old alpine base...

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 92 points 9 months ago

"we would welcome contributions to integrate a performant and memory-safe JPEG XL decoder in Chromium. In order to enable it by default in Chromium we would need a commitment to long-term maintenance."

yeah

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MESA, AZ—Gleefully describing the inevitable day when society would collapse and digital files would become unusable, local physical media collector David Campbell confirmed Wednesday he was “absolutely pumped” for the downfall of humanity. “When it all goes down, there’s only going to be one place to watch the Tomb Raider movies in their entirety with all the deleted scenes, and that’s going to be my bunker,” said Campbell, his eyes reportedly shining as he described how the end of organized society and the dissolution of government would make his cherished stockpile of Blu-rays even more valuable.

“No one will be mocking the CDs I’m still holding onto when the internet goes dark forever and the only way to listen to music is through boom boxes we trade canned goods for. And I’m definitely one of the only people who has a region-free DVD player and all three seasons of Father Ted plus the Christmas special, so I’ll essentially be a king. I can’t wait.” At press time, Campbell was grinning as he purchased the 50th anniversary edition of Jaws in 4k, which he anticipated would give him full control over the drinking water supply in the event of a nuclear winter situation.

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Who let the kid play in the kitchen?? 🥲

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Clean all the cache downloads of Arch Linux Packages

pacman -Scc

Remove unused docker networks and images

docker system prune --all

Cleanup untracked git files that might be in .gitignore such as build and out directories (beware of losing data, use "n" instead of "f" for a dry run)

git clean -xdf

Do an aggresive pruning of objects in git (MIGHT BE VERY SLOW)

git gc --aggressive --prune=now

Remove old journal logs, keeping last seven days

journalctl --vacuum-time 7days

Remove pip cache

pip cache purge

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 44 points 2 years ago

"Google could be forced to sell Chrome" was the news in late november so I guess this a reaction to that.

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 50 points 2 years ago

Depends on how many communities do you subscribe too and how much activity they have.

I'm running my single user instance subscribed to 20 communities on a 2c/4g vps who also hosts my matrix server and a bunch of other stuff and right now I mostly see peaks from 5/10% of CPU and RAM at 1.5GB

I have been running for 15months and the docker volumes total 1.2GBs A single pg_dump for the lemmy database in plain text is 450M

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Fjorm BST: 207 Superboons: Atk, Spd Superbanes: Hp, Def, Res

Thea BST: 195 Superboon: Spd Superbanes: Hp, Atk, Def

Flora BST: 185 Superboon: Atk Superbanes: Hp, Def

Felicia BST: 190 Superboon: Spd Superbane: Hp

Nils BST: 188 Superboons: Atk, Spd Superbanes: Hp, Res

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[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 40 points 2 years ago

lol for the past 15 years I have "rebuilt" my desktop every 5 years but I didn't expect the would try to force me out of my 7 3700x right on the date

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Lissa and Frederick for kids banner.

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[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 65 points 2 years ago

you have been banned from /c/DataHoarder

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 61 points 2 years ago

Nothing bad would ever happen from deploying on a friday evening right? right?

YOLO, see you on the other side

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 53 points 2 years ago

Here comes Arch Linux with a steel chair!!

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 42 points 2 years ago

A Debian sid user is just a future Arch Linux user.

I use arch btw

[-] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 50 points 3 years ago

So she did half of the work

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