Wow, so I guess they were picturing everything reverting back to 19th-century warfare? Or maybe, they were picturing what actually happened, but they didn't know what to call the heavy, but still fast and maneuverable, gun platforms we now call "tanks".
I guess it goes to show that you have to consider what a new military technology adds, as well as what it subtracts.
Well, no. Not every armoured vehicle is a tank.
The engineering logic for large, probably armoured vehicles checks out, though.
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Like, somebody could actually say this and mean it, in some sense. Although, obviously, guys in ball turrets or mechanical artillery calculators aren't going to make an appearance.
Did somebody actually say tanks were dead after WWI? Tanks were brand new!
Even old weak armoured tanks like the Leopard1 are reported to have survived over 50 drone hits.
I wonder how that's being measured. Obviously, fairly modern Russian armour has been destroyed quickly in Ukraine. Turtle tanks can survive well over a hundred FPV hits - at which point, the drone operators must be wishing they had basic artillery, instead - but they're designed for that to the detriment of other capabilities.
The Russia-Ukraine war is specific to the capabilities of the two parties, and to the nature of the battlefield (big and flat). The next war will be different in many important ways. So yes, one shouldn't overlearn.
That being said:
they will just adapt to new threats unless there is an actual replacement that can fullfil their role on the battle field. Which drones don’t.
What fulfills the role of a castle on an ancient battlefield, in a modern one? Nothing, really. That whole method of warfare become obsolete.
Ditto for the musket formation. Tactical infantry formations obviously exist, but they're dispersed, because the problem tight lines solved are gone, and the weaknesses they had are much more important.
Alas… the next iteration is coming with more active defenses as well as a remote-weapon station able to work against drones. And with their own set of missiles and/or loitering munitions.
The Ukrainians themselves hate the whole "we added a remote 50-cal station to the truck so we're good" argument. Drones can do a lot of different things, and don't necessarily come one-by-one. If there's any actual replies back to that argument, they seem few and far between.
It's going to change tactics, not just technology. The West can't procure our way out of having to adapt.
the less talked about class of IFVs is actually getting much more tank-like with similiar levels of armor and active defense as tanks, just another specialisation
Yeah, but that's not an MBT! Armour is almost certainly not dead. A vehicle built around a big gun firing mostly horizontally, and surviving assault by other armour, on the other hand...
It's pretty unclear what a tank does in a drone war, anyway.
Traditionally, armour was/is designed to move fast, and hit more lightly armed targets before they can react. Now, it's not fast, relative to the battlefield around it. Something like an APC or self-propelled howitzer might still have a role, but an MBT is designed with a very narrow use case in mind.
Hmm, so the vegan version would go something like: if you could live with any animal in it's native habitat, which one would it be?
Wow. People of this thread, if you think some ideological concept is the cause of all your personal woes, you're projecting a lot.
Depends what that means.
Why do I dislike my current situation? That would be nuanced, at minimum, to explain to a Gazan or Rohingya, but on Lemmy I can just say: "My situation is objectively bad."
Why aren't I joyful more often? That's just how I'm wired, it doesn't matter what's happening.
Why do I experience negative emotions often? First off, I'm not sure if I actually have more than average. Probably less. Beyond that, I don't really know. If I was in a better situation, would it stop? Would I find some tiny detail to stress over, instead? How objective are we even about remembering what we've felt over time? There's not enough information.
Why do I feel wronged by the world around me? I don't, really. Shit happens. I'm lucky in that I actually know that.
It's weird, they start by talking about manufacturing robots, and then switch to installing robots. Those are two very different things. There's more stuff Chinese people are doing by hand, which they could automate, so sure. German factories are going to be pretty automated already.
It even mentions:
Although China still relies on high-end components from European and Japanese companies and A.I. chips from Nvidia, the country is becoming more self-sufficient, Ms. Arcesati said.
You start with textiles, then move to plastic crap, then keep moving up the specialised and high-tech food chain. That's the usual way industrialisation works. China is making some of it's own robots, but you can be pretty sure it's mostly the cheapest, most basic kind. And the tools to make those robots probably themselves come from Japan or Germany.
Yeah, not quite an assault shed, but still pretty substantially covered, going by the picture.
The way you put it, I was expecting an unmodified tank capable of normal tank operations, in, like, a Western test.