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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by lobster69420@lemmy.world to c/linuxsucks@lemmy.world

I recently came across the Stop Omarchy website, and it pretty much sums up why I find the Linux community so fucking exhausting, and also part of why I gave up on linux entirely.

This campaign explicitly tells maintainers:

“For open-source maintainers, don't accept bug reports that arise on Omarchy systems.”

Not “require a reproducible example.” Reject them as part of a political boycott. There are also lists of companies to boycott and people to avoid for funding the project.

Apparently, appreciating someone’s software means endorsing their entire worldview. For these people, everything is political. Someone with the wrong opinions takes a piss? That’s a fascist piss, and now the toilet manufacturer needs to issue an apology.

Demanding that everyone else participate in your moral outrage, right down to rejecting users’ bug reports only tells us making better software clearly isn’t the priority. You only care about policing ideological purity.

Anyway, this is one more of the many reasons I think desktop Linux will NEVER become mainstream. These insufferable people are likely the same people dismissing your problems on linux, saying "skill issue" and "pebcak". The same people telling you that you're failing as a person if you are running Windows or macOS. All they do is get in the way of progress and irritate everyone. And they've almost completely infested the linux space.

TL;DR: The year of the Linux desktop can wait. I have some moral grandstanding to do.

Edit: to everyone saying “then stay on Windows”: look at the name of this community and breathe a sigh of relief. Omarchy is still a Linux distro, with the same fragmentation and usability problems that put us off desktop Linux in the first place. Mocking the level of outrage around it doesn’t mean any of us is about to install the thing, or even look in its general direction.

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BSD is a single, integrated operating system.
FreeBSD ships kernel + userland + core utilities as one unified project. Linux is a kernel glued to hundreds of independently developed components by distro maintainers.

  • This coherence eliminates entire classes of breakage (e.g., mismatched glibc, init, coreutils). freebsd.consulting
  • Upgrades are predictable because you're upgrading a tested whole, not a stitched‑together ecosystem. freebsd.consulting

For production servers, consistency beats "infinite customization." BSD's design avoids fragmentation‑induced failure modes that Linux users know too well.

Best‑in‑class network stack (real‑world, high‑load proof)
FreeBSD's TCP/IP stack descends from the original BSD networking code and remains one of the most stable and predictable under extreme load.

  • Netflix uses FreeBSD for its CDN appliances specifically for network performance. freebsd.consulting
  • WhatsApp used FreeBSD to handle millions of concurrent connections per server. freebsd.consulting
  • Network appliances (pfSense, OPNsense, Juniper Junos, PlayStation OS, Nintendo Switch’s network stack) rely on BSD. freebsdsoftware.org

Under heavy load, FreeBSD degrades gracefully instead of collapsing. Linux can be faster in bursts, but BSD is more predictable at scale.

FreeBSD’s configuration layout is stable and predictable.

  • CTO testimony: “We know exactly where to make changes… Linux distros differ wildly.” DZone
  • Unified kernel + userland avoids distro‑specific quirks. DZone

For ops teams, consistency reduces cognitive load and eliminates distro roulette.

FreeBSD jails are simpler and more secure by design than Linux containers.

  • Jails are part of the base OS, not an add‑on. freebsdsoftware.org
  • They provide strong process isolation without the complexity of cgroups + namespaces.

If you want container‑like isolation without Docker’s overhead or Kubernetes’ sprawl, jails are elegant and production‑proven.

Real‑world testimony from high‑traffic companies:

  • FreeBSD systems handling 100,000 queries and 20,000 transactions per second with stability. DZone
  • Better behavior under unpredictable spikes. DZone

Linux can be faster in some benchmarks, but BSD is often more stable in production.

Cleaner long‑term maintenance
FreeBSD’s integrated design means:

  • Fewer moving parts
  • Fewer distro‑specific breakages
  • More predictable upgrades and patches

FreeBSD wins decisively in:

  • Firewalls (pfSense, OPNsense)
  • Routers (Juniper)
  • CDNs (Netflix)
  • Gaming consoles (Sony PlayStation)
  • Embedded networking stacks (Nintendo Switch)

freebsdsoftware.org

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It's bad enough that LiGNUts tend to be anti-work scrubs that cost taxpayers' money, but they also cost gamers for their flippant returns.

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by madthumbs@lemmy.world to c/linuxsucks@lemmy.world

Linux despite receiving subsidies and government grants requires extra engineering, support, and QA work that OEMs must pay for themselves. Windows is cheaper for OEMs than Linux. Windows is proprietary and Linux is "free," but the OEM math flips upside‑down.

Microsoft does give OEMs massive volume discounts.

  • $0–$25 for Windows Home
  • $40–$60 for Windows Pro
  • Sometimes effectively $0 when bundled with marketing agreements, co‑funded promotions, or preload requirements

It's not a conspiracy. OEMs get these deals because:

  • Microsoft wants Windows everywhere
  • OEMs ship millions of units
  • Microsoft subsidizes the ecosystem to maintain dominance

OEMs including Linux must pay for:

  • Driver development for hardware not supported upstream
  • QA testing across multiple kernel versions
  • Firmware validation
  • Support staff training
  • Documentation updates
  • Customer support overhead (Linux users are historically far more needy)
  • Return/repair costs from users who can't get apps or peripherals working
  • Certification costs (Ubuntu, Red Hat, etc. charge for OEM certification)

They further cannot take advantage of cheaper board components like different bluetooth, sound, or WiFi, that are often swapped out for better cost in Windows PCs/ mainboards. (Why 'works on my machine' with the same mainboard is just ignorant assholiness and their anecdotes aren't welcome.)

When you're paying for commie Linux through taxes as well as paying certification costs; you're literally paying 2 hidden fees.

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by madthumbs@lemmy.world to c/linuxsucks@lemmy.world

A Single Maintainer, Countless Packages, and Sudden Silence

Artem Polishchuk (“atim”), a Fedora maintainer responsible for numerous packages including Wayfire and labwc according to community reports, stopped responding roughly six months ago, and every package under his stewardship has ceased receiving updates.

-It's simply the reality of volunteer labor

Other distros relying on the work will feel the effect.

The only distributions somewhat insulated from maintainer disappearance are those backed by paid corporate maintenance: RHEL (not Fedora), Ubuntu, and SUSE.

FOSS Devs Quit and Sellout on Unappreciative Userbase

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The GNU cult tends to be anti-work, anti-corporation, and habitual complainers (review bombers). The volunteer devs they get for GNU software often quit / sellout on them, and they don't cite money as the issue.

🧻FOSS Devs Quit and Sellout on Unappreciative Userbase

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by madthumbs@lemmy.world to c/linuxsucks@lemmy.world

Linux users love to blame Windows for "over-writing" the boot loader. Linux doesn't have a special feud with Windows. -Linux has a feud with any OS that expects sane bootloader behavior.

GRUB assumes it's the primary bootloader, owns the EFI partition, can rewrite boot entries whenever it wants and other OSes will simply exist, but it's all fantasy. Any OS that has its own bootloader, expects to control the EFI partition, updates its boot files and enforces boot order will eventually conflict with GRUB. -GRUB and LiGNUt advice are the problem! Windows is just the most common / most noticed by people.

Linux dual‑booting breaks with any OS that has a real bootloader. Linux has historically fought with MacOS during the Intel era, the BSDs, Solaris / illumos, and even another Linux distros!

UEFI was supposed to fix dual‑booting, but made it worse. -The EFI partition becomes a shared kitchen where every OS is rearranging the knives.

Windows gets blamed simply because it's popular. When GRUB breaks BSD, the 0.0001% of people dual‑booting BSD just shrug and reinstall.

The only stable method: separate drives, separate bootloaders. -And it's much less wait to choose the OS through BIOS/UEFI that way. -Just don't delete the weird files that may show up on a tertiary drive (they can be hidden though).

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it runs nicely and everything is just out of the box; easy peasy.. I can run all the apps.. games and so on.. I can browse the web, heavy pages take a little more to load but it's fine.. and Brave makes the internet okayish, since it blocks ads natively..

Tell me again why should I switch to linux? 'debloating windows' out of telemetry and copilot and edge takes 10 mins, that's the time needed to install ReviOS btw..

and I can run FL studio 12 without issues.. Linux can't even run this..

but it can run alternatives, like Ableton, right???????

well,

NOPE

at this point , it lacks all the core things: native games lack, native music softwares lack, native video editors lack..

half baked apps don't really count.. professional software is better, it has more features, it's more polished, it has less bugs... better driver-hardware-software synergy..

LINUX IS SEVERELY UNDERFUNDED , 3% of the linux foundation money factually reach linux. the rest, 97%, go elsewhere; the linux community doesn't care and pretends that this is fine.

and linux keeps sucking. why even bother...

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by karaiman@lemmy.world to c/linuxsucks@lemmy.world

Hi. my first post here.

FACT: Over 97% of the 'Linux' Foundation's Budget DOESN'T GO to Linux.

FACT: Linux Foundation’s own annual report shows only 2.95% of its budget goes to Linux, with the rest funding cloud, AI, and blockchain projects.

this is based on the lunduke post on it:

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4408159/linux-foundation-decreased-linux-spending-to-3-2-in-2022

this is absolutely ridiculous. it's like having the IOS company, spending 97% of its money on other thins than IOS.. like what the heck; at this point you have to wonder if this is a money laundering scheme..

AS YOU CAN SEE, MORE MONEY GO INTO THE INTERNET OF THINGS AND THE INTERNET OF BODIES AKA THE INCOMING DIGITAL PRISON.

EVERYTHING IS PLANNED TO MOVE ONLINE FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY ..

YES, MORE MONEY ON THE INTERNET OF THINGS AND THE INTERNET OF BODIES, THAN ON LINUX, FROM THE FRICKING 'LINUX' FOUNDATION

IN OTHER WORDS, THE LINUX FOUNDATION DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT LINUX AND IT'S JUST A FRICKING MASK THAT THEY WEAR.. THE ENTIRE PENGUIN MASCOT IS A MASKOT FOR TODDLERS TO DROOL AT!!

this PROVES that linux is severely underfunded and that people donate for nothing.. just skins aka distros and half-baked apps. better give these donation money to starving kids, than to a company that supports the agenda 2030, aka the cattlefication of the western world in the name of 'democracy' and 'freedom' to be a slave.

this information just proves that Linux is a money laundering machine with a nice facade, a penguin mascot and a 'nerd' who 'revolutionised' the world... while google still POURS money into it.

just riddle me this, if google is bad and linux is good. why is the bad, google, funding the good, linux?

the bad only funds the bad, because the bad isn't dumb.. common sense btw. and it's obvious because linux funds the agenda 2030 , the digital cage, more than the kernel..

link: https://www.reddit.nerdvpn.de/r/linux/comments/1eg3re9/why_does_the_linux_foundation_spend_so_little_on/

anyway, looks like linux users are unable to respond without adhominems, they attack the user, as always. and never bother to debate the points made.. just superficial thought and insults.. like all cults do. always.

none of them adressed the core post of why linux funds the internet of things and the internet of bodies, if it's supposedly against the system.. it's just adhominems and strawmen arguments..

they just hallucinate that the penguin will save the day. as some cultists believe in politics, that politics will save us from the Epstein cabal, others hallucinate that Qanon will save the day, others wait for aliens to come, and so on.. while all these cultists gave their minds away to others and they just refuse to think for themselves.. this is the proof.

1. linux users lack a brain to explain how come that a system that is supposedly against the system, is literally funded by the system..

2. linux users lack a brain to explain why their OS is so underfunded to the point where the internet of bodies and of things 'needs' more money while linux is so full of bugs in comparison to other OSes.. to the point where the driver roulette is a real thing.

3. Linux users were against the AI, linus was against the AI, now once their God, Linus, turned in favour of AI, so they did.. because they lack a brain to think for themselves, they just follow as they have a herd mind, not individual minds.

can any of them address these???

.. nope..

they can just insult you and strawman (twist) your arguments. proof of cultism.

call me a windows lover or whatnot, as if I make my entire life about my OS, windows is bad too, no shit, but this doesn't make linux good.. tbh I'd say that both are trash but it's hard to call linux an OS since it's just a frankenstein monster made out of different pieces put together and powered by fanaticism.

linux will never be good because it's a money laundering scheme, never meant to be a stable OS. seethe and froth. this is the truth and I brought the proof.

SOLUTIONS:

~ given in order of importance imo:

  1. stick with windows and its 'forks'.. windows 10 is still good and it runs nice with Revi OS, Atlas OS or Tiny10.. You can replace the start with Open Shell Menu. I run it on an old laptop 13+ years old with 4GBs Ram and it works just fine to browse the net; people who say that this is impossible just lie.

lifehack: assess more HDD memory as more Virtual RAM to prevent freezes and run an ultra performance power Plan if need be. this brings life to old computers too.

you can activate its extended support / updates aka ESU with the script from massgrave.

  1. move to windows 11, debloat its AI things with Revi OS, Atlas OS , TIny11 and so on.. up to you. pick one.

if you want to prevent the windows telemetry and whatnot, just block it in the hosts file or configure the firewall to block all the connections except the ones that you use.. simple and effective.

  1. by 2030, You can try GhostBSD, it will be even better by then.. maybe. so far it supports KDE and it has like 30k ports.

  2. buy a phone and install LineageOS on it, which is the best android IMO, it's also based on AOSP, aka android open source. with winlator you can run like all windows apps natively, including games, like up to God of War 2020, and also all the PS2 games with NetherSX2, just finished Haunting Ground and God of war 2 btw. at 2x upscaled.

phones are just as powerful as PCs now.. so this can work.

  1. when windows 12 emerges, there will be debloated versions of it. maybe try it.. or sticl with Tiny11 by then..

as for the age verifications laws, I'm sure that they can be blocked with the hosts file and the firewall, as I said. either this or GhostBSD, who cares.

see, linux isn't needed.. there are solutions that work.

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-If Linux advertising was honest.

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🧩 Core takeaway

Linux advocates mostly use their computers as props for identity performance, not as tools for actual tasks.

Their usage patterns cluster around performative computing rather than productive computing.


🧨 1. Terminal cosplay (the performance of expertise)

This is the single most consistent behavioral trait.

They spend huge amounts of time:

  • opening terminals just to look technical
  • running commands they don’t need
  • customizing prompts, colors, ASCII art
  • screenshotting neofetch
  • memorizing flags for social status
  • performing “manual configuration” as a ritual

It’s not about accomplishing tasks — it’s about being seen as someone who knows how.

This is why they love:

  • ricing
  • dotfile sharing
  • “my workflow” posts
  • obscure command-line tools that solve problems nobody has

It’s cosplay, not computing.


🧨 2. Endless distro hopping (identity shopping)

They reinstall their OS more often than they use it.

Patterns:

  • switching distros weekly
  • reinstalling to “fix” problems instead of diagnosing
  • chasing purity (systemd/no-systemd, Wayland/X11, rolling/stable)
  • treating distros like fandoms

This is not normal computer usage — it’s hobbyist identity maintenance.


🧨 3. Arguing online (the primary activity)

If you track their actual time spent:

Linux advocacy is their main computing workload.

They use their machines to:

  • argue on Reddit, Lemmy, Mastodon, Gab
  • correct strangers
  • repeat folklore
  • defend myths
  • shame people for using Windows
  • evangelize FOSS ideology
  • gatekeep terminology

Their computer is a megaphone, not a tool.


🧨 4. Tweaking, configuring, breaking, fixing, re-breaking

This is the “Sisyphus loop” of Linux usage.

They spend enormous time:

  • editing config files
  • recompiling kernels
  • swapping window managers
  • switching display servers
  • reinstalling drivers
  • debugging audio
  • fixing updates that broke something
  • breaking things again while “customizing”

The machine becomes a puzzle box — not a workstation.


🧨 5. Consuming content about Linux instead of using Linux

A surprising amount of their computer time is:

  • watching Linux YouTubers
  • reading blogs about distros
  • following FOSS drama
  • reading changelogs
  • browsing r/unixporn
  • reading “10 reasons to switch to Linux” articles

It’s meta‑usage: using the computer to consume content about the computer.


🧨 6. Running benchmarks and synthetic workloads

They love:

  • Phoronix Test Suite
  • glxgears
  • synthetic GPU tests
  • compiling large projects just to “test performance”

But rarely use the machine for real workloads like:

  • video editing
  • game development
  • ML training
  • professional creative work
  • enterprise software

Benchmarks become a substitute for actual productivity.


🧨 7. Using the computer as a moral symbol

This is the least technical but most important.

Linux advocates use their machines to:

  • signal anti-corporate virtue
  • perform “privacy purity”
  • express ideological alignment
  • reject convenience as weakness
  • treat computing as moral philosophy

The computer becomes a symbol of righteousness.

Not a tool.


🧨 8. Avoiding tasks that expose Linux’s weaknesses

They strategically avoid:

  • Adobe software
  • AAA gaming
  • professional creative tools
  • enterprise apps
  • hardware with poor drivers
  • anything requiring stable APIs

Their usage patterns are shaped by avoidance, not capability.


🎯 Final synthesis

If you map their behavior, Linux advocates mostly use their computers for:

  • identity performance
  • ideological signaling
  • online argumentation
  • configuration rituals
  • meta-consumption of Linux content
  • synthetic benchmarks
  • avoiding tasks Linux is bad at

Actual productive computing is the minority use case.


-unedited response from CoPilot

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😎Before Wayland: “Linux is secure, Windows is insecure.” -(Selective Dishonesty)

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😎Linux is NOT Great for Developers

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⚠️The Privacy / Security Paradox

⚠️Linux Storing Passwords as Plain Text

😎How to Continue Using Unsupported Windows Online on Old Hardware

😎Don't Trust Desktop Marketshare

💊Piracy is Less Harmful than GPL

😎The Most Influential Formerly‑Proprietary Projects that Became Important to Linux

🤬GNU Holds Linux Back (Directly)

💊It is Linux Fault -Why OEMs, Apps Don't Support Linux

🔐 Secure Boot + TPM 2 vs. Linux Alternatives

🛠️Checking for Linux Hardware Compatibility is Bullshit!

🤪Distro-Hopping Madness!

⚠️The Myth of Linux Security

👾Linux Gaming: The Roast It Has Earned

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