Agree. It gives perspective.
this post was submitted on 16 Aug 2023
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100%. I'm still a bit shocked there are instances that block down votes and vehemently defend the decision. I mean, didn't everyone raise a huff when YouTube disabled dislike? I can only imagine someone got down voted into oblivion once and reacted with "Down votes are bad."
I think itβs totally fine to have the option, personally I find it the "goodness/badness" percentage to be more appropriate. A post could have 1000 upvotes with 5 down and Iβd only look at the 5 and think "wow, so many disliked this" where itβs actually 99.5% positive.
Reddit used to have this functionality too (RES would expose it in the UI). Later they removed it and only showed if a comment was controversial. Very refreshing indeed to see the up and down votes again!
It's an integral part of online content, being able to both upvote and downvote. I'm amazed how it's still so divisive given that it's been the norm for over a decade on Reddit
Also the reason why Iβve avoided so many of the alternative web apps for lemmy that try to hide the downvotes.
It's amazing.
And thereβs also a βcontroversialβ sort coming (Reddit had similar right?), which ranks posts with many but balanced votes β¦ which as you say, can be quite interesting.
Some people can't see the difference, but a comment with +4 could be a 1004/1000 or a 4/0 and there's a world of difference there.
It's like Fallout New Vegas's rep system.
How are you seeing the split votes? I can only see the aggregate number.
Depends on the app you're using.
Iβm using Voyager, as the community name suggests the OP is. Using the AppStore version on iOS which may make a difference.
Settings > Appearance > Display Votes > Separate
You should have an option. I'm not on iOS. But try go to settings > appearance and there should be a Votes section that lets you pick separate.
Aww man I'm using Sync, I don't see options to change it, all I see is how many points a post has.
Couldn't agree more. As someone not shying away from controversial discussions reddit used to be frustrating because it created the illusion that no-one ever agrees with you. I don't at all mind the total points being negative when I can atleast see that third of the people still agree with me.
The most illuminating aspect of Lemmy has been in contrast with what Reddit has become in recent years. It's difficult to make nuanced or light hearted comments in Reddit without misunderstandings or receiving a lot of negative feedback. The Lemmy userbase seems to be dominated by refugees from Reddit. I'm amazed how long Reddit managed to hang on to it's core principles and I think that can be credited to the diffuse structure. Now that they've committed to the unified corporate goal of profit it will completely go down the shitter in the way Facebook and the other popular platforms have.
I also like that you can hide vote count altogether. This is something that I wish other apps had. It's great for people like me who want to read and judge comments by their own merit as opposed to vote count
I like that I can see this post has 9 downvotes.
It's also possible to view what account upvoted you by viewing your post on a Kbin instance.
I think it's rather silly that this information is obfuscated on Lemmy.
And it's only possible to upvote on Kbin. Which makes more sense to me as well.
Huh? Where do I see this? If it matters I'm using sync on android.
You can't on Sync as far as I'm aware.
But at least we can pay a premium price to maybe receive it in the future! Because the dev is doing gods work and whatnot.
Yeah there's definitely a bit of a circle jerk happening with Sync. People proclaiming it was the best Lemmy app ever, while up until a few days ago you couldn't even submit a post.
Edit: realised I even got downvoted for pointing out Sync doesn't have that functionality. How ironic that the only reason I can see that is because I'm not using Sync haha
People have to justify paying premium money for a beta in every way they can. Imagine Boost releases and is better in every way, and people have spent upwards of 120 dollars on Sync. I don't understand the rush.
Edit: Just out of curiosity, you running Voyager or smth else?
Voyager. I've tried a couple others but keep coming back to it.
Yeah with the cost of Sync. I don't think it's right. This isn't Reddit. I've donated money to support a local instance and I'll donate to Voyager as well. I'm for supporting developers. But this is an ad free platform, so it feels wrong to pay so much for an app that adds ads to it.
Yeah I agree. Creating a problem and taking "donations" to solve it is a bit sketchy especially when the instances themselves could use that funding. And when the whole idea of the platform is the other direction.
Man....tough crowd...down vote hate for an innocent question with a bit of info on my client. Feels like somewhere....we all left.