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Tens of thousands of Canadians were "Alberta bound" as they searched for a more affordable place to live amongst higher interest rates and home prices.

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[–] MelanieJoy@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will be good for them to get 'new blood'. They won't like it, they will actively complain for a painfully long time, but it might be just what they need to even out the 'this is how we have always done it' attitude. (source-Albertan aka me)

[–] yads@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Are you under the impression that people moving to Alberta in droves is a new phenomenon?

[–] ______@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Come to Alberta folks, we need people who aren't alt right parrots who have signs for American politics

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Too many crazies for me, wouldn’t want a neighbour like that

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, imagine being in Canada and your neighbour has a lifted brotruck with at 12ft Trump flag on it, wtf

[–] ______@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People post signs in highway 2 (Calgary to Edmonton) with messages like "lock Joe Biden/Hillary" and ofc the trump signs. There is no imagining. It's real

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry my friend 😑 poor Canada

[–] ______@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

We need people like you

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I have no doubt there's a good chunk of crazies, but we had NDP signs up last election and our neighbour had UCP signs up, but they're still incredibly nice to us.

[–] CylustheVirus@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

They really have signs for American politics? Ugh, I'm sorry. Not what I'd choose for us to export.

[–] Ilikepornaddict@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would, except the only draw Alberta has is housing prices, there's literally nothing else. I feel like I'd be happier simply moving north towards the BC interior.

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Culturally, the BC interior and Alberta look pretty damn similar (the interior of BC is surprisingly conservative), but Alberta actually has jobs.

[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, BC Interior has a lot of scary crazy assholes. They're sleeper rednecks no one seems to talk about when describing Canadian redneckery, maybe because everyone is distracted by the culture of LML and Vancouver, and it's easy to pick on Alberta. In my experience they're much worse than the average Albertan.

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's be fair: there are some really nice mountains, lakes, etc. in Alberta.

[–] corminsterfullerene@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

That's a boundary error -- they're all next to BC

[–] Ilikepornaddict@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if you're coming from BC it doesn't.

[–] enragedchowder@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Both provinces can have amazing nature, it’s not a competition.

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alberta is honestly super nice. Winters aren't that bad once you have the right clothing for them, and summers are beautiful. Sun year round, which is what I love compared to BC. Nature here is equally as good as BC.

The only thing you have to consider is politics. However, despite hating the current government here, I am still much happier compared to BC (since I can actually afford a house)

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't beat the ocean though. Or the lack of right wing nutjobs.

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I take it you haven't been to Kamloops? (Remember the OP was talking about moving to the interior, not staying on the coast where it's unsustainably expensive).

[–] Wage_slave@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Welcome to all of you. We don't have a whole ton of open homes and our poo bah is an American/separatist idiot who may or may not by the mist discriminated against convoy native to have ever worked a oul rig in the prairies.

There's a lot of diet GOP minded folks and some real assholes.

But in the context of Canada right now, this may be the right place for ya if you have the patience to deal with this shit.

[–] PaganDude@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny, because as someone who builds houses for a living, this year has been really slow and pathetic at getting work building new houses. A bunch of places just announced cancelling bigger projects, due to costs from interest rates. We need way more houses, and we're slowing down building. It's insane.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is also happening at the national level as well. As far as I'm concerned the writing is on the wall. Time for the Feds to get more active in non-market housing like they used to.

[–] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

There has been some rumblings that make it sound like they are gearing up to get involved. The new housing minister recently said the feds never should have left the building game in the 80/90s. Singh has made some recent contents as well that echo that statement.

Between that and what's been going on in my province, it sounds like the higher levels are finally starting to understand that the municipalities and private builders can't do it by themselves. It sounds like more info will be released in the fall so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

I would personally much rather fly over it on my way to BC. But can't afford it sadly.

[–] TemporaryBoyfriend@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Heh. Mom moved to Alberta with her idiot boyfriend last year after I had enough of her COVID isn't real / those people were sick anyway / antivax shit. Good riddance.

Especially tragic is that she has very rare (potentially suddenly fatal) health issues that were being well managed by specialists in the Toronto area -- there's no way in hell she's getting a similar level of care where she is.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was Alberta-bound, but I overshot it a little and instead catapulted myself to BC. Whoops!

(Also as someone from Toronto, the "come to Alberta" ads were all over public transit and other places last year)

[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putting these numbers into perspective, here are the immigration stats by province:

  • Prince Edward Island: 2,665
  • Newfoundland and Labrador: 3,490
  • Nova Scotia: 12,650
  • New Brunswick: 10,205
  • Quebec: 68,685
  • Ontario: 184,725
  • Manitoba: 21,645
  • Saskatchewan: 21,635
  • Alberta: 49,460
  • British Columbia: 61,215
  • Yukon: 455
  • Northwest Territories: 235
  • Nunavut: 45

source

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank you. Not surprising to see Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia ahead considering BCPNP, OINP and similar programs. Also, when discussing housing & COL attractiveness it would be interesting to consider net migration because a province might attract a lot of new residents but also lose a lot of residents at the same time.

[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I’d also be curious to see the inter-province migration statistics for the rest of the country

[–] Dearche@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Alberta housing that cheap? I was under the impression that anywhere worth living over there was actually extremely expensive and poor in quality due to how many people move there temporarily due to oil.

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Compared to Vancouver or the GTA, yes, absolutely.

[–] Echo71Niner@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

COL & Housing prices in Alberta will rise, more and more people move there for the very same reason. Canadian gov. sitting on its ass calling for 500,000 new people every year, while not spending money to build housing, not pushing provinces to build houses either. Ontario can not even build 1 million homes in 10 years, that is a fact. That is pathetic. Canada is a cluster fuck of a nation when it comes to the future of housing and economy, count on it. They want to push the population to 100 million, and they will, except 39% of them will be homeless.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. Seeing the rent price doubling since pandemic, in Montréal in 2019 it was almost easy to find a 600$ 2bdr apartment. Now it's 1200$+. For people making less than 2000$/month, it's a lot... At one point, some people were saying "well, rent is expensive, let's buy a condo", easy when they were 150 to 200k. Now in Montréal it's 400k+, house are at 650k+.

I saw people looking at a condo not far from me, with interest rate now mortgage was 3500$, monthly taxes 400, monthly fee 600, so we are talking 4500$/month for a standard 2bd condo, wtf?!? And lastly a lot of new condo owner are discovering that their tower is badly build, cracked wall, water leak, etc, and need hundreds of thousands of $$$ to make it secure, money that they don't have.

When I say to people that having 500k immigrants/year is Canada going full speed in a wall, some says I am anti-immigrant, while I'm an immigrant myself! I have nothing against them nor war refugee of course. But having 500k new people per year that will live in the street is not sustainable?!? What about education system which is shitty? And healthcare which is shitty too!

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the last two months, we got 250k newcomers actually. So 1m every 8 months. And basically no new homes.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

To be honest, I think I'd rather head to the east coast. We've only been to Halifax so there's plenty more for us to see our east.