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I'm sure a Trump administration will really help the people of Gaza, the LGBTQ+ community, women's body autonomy, etc. I guess they want 2000 all over again.
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A lot of younger voters don't really remember 2000, where we had a protest vote going for Nader, which had the effect of throwing the election into the courts, enabling Bush to get them to install him in office.
You'd think they'd remember what happened in 2016 when so many of us (myself included) went 3rd party as a protest too.
That was 8 years ago. There are people voting this year that were 10 when Trump entered office. Idk about you, but I wasn't paying much attention to politics in middle school.
Y'all voting for the rapist, huh?
You voting for the genocider huh?
Unlike the genocider rapist? You know trump will send more weapons to Israel. It's not like the assholes in charge of Israel will ever stop the genocide anyways. They're villainous scumbags only slightly more cartoonishly evil than trump. He'll also stop any resources to Ukraine and let Russia do whatever they want. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if republicans started sending supplies to Russia so they can win the invasion they started.
Honestly, if you don't know that trump is the worst possible choice in every fucking area imaginable, you haven't been paying attention to who he is as a person or you're a brainwashed sheep. He's a shit stain. A pox on society. Just imagine if we had a competent president during covid. Would've had a hell of a lot less American deaths and wouldn't have been shut down for so long. Not to mention the damage he's done to our economy with his nonsense dumbass trade wars and tax cuts for the rich.
Lol, I'm a sheep for not wanting to vote for Biden? Says the sheep that's vote blue no matter who.
You’re just a Russian troll or a useful idiot for them. With the general election, anything but a vote for Biden helps Trump.
Sucks for yall then, maybe you should have pushed Biden harder to not commit a genocide if you didn't want Ttump to win.
So you want the genocide of Ukraine, think rape is ok, think the persecution of LGBTQ people is just fine? Because that's how you are coming across
Hey you think LGBTQ people are welcome and accepted in Ukraine? Spoiler alert, they are not.
We should definitely commit genocide in Ukraine then. They are barely accepted in America either and stand no chance if you let trump and the Christian fascists win.
A genocide isn't happening in Ukraine, they can actually defend themselves and have had internal support through cash and weapons. The Palestinians have no support and their weapons are bath tub grenade launchers....
They can't defend themselves if you take their support away which is what trump wants to do. So instead of one genocide you have two.
America isn't the only country giving them billions in cash and weapons. Also again there is no genocide in Ukraine and just because they are losing the war and people die it doesn't make it genocide.
America ain't the only ones helping aid the genocide in Palestine either. But things would be much worse for everyone with trump in charge. Americans have a choice and unfortunately neither of them are good but one is magnitudes worse than the other, neither will stop the genocide in Palestine, one will get 100s of thousands of more people killed, not to mention make the lives of thousands of people more difficult when they become persecuted by their own government, it will strip women of their rights and cause chaos around the globe
As the dictator of both Israel and the United States all he has to do is turn of the Genocide™! What is he thinking leaving it on!
What was he thinking completely funding the genocide with our tax money then preventing the UN from stepping in and stopping it.
Without Bidens support there is no genocide but I guess you prefer sucking Bidens dick while tens of thousands of women and children are blown to pieces with bombs we gave them.
Right? Israel didn't exist until Biden dreamed them up last October, and then those little rascals started Genociding™ right away. Since Biden is the only president in history, and Israel has clearly stated they'd stop the incursion if Biden asked really nicely, he could stop the Genocide™ anytime he wanted. Why isn't he stopping it!
Why oh why is Biden 100% funding the Genocide™? Everyone knows that Joey B is single handedly supplying all the military equipment Israel is using, like some kind of feisty Genocide™ happy elf from Santa's workshop. Israel isn't getting military and economic support from any other country besides Joe Biden, that dick (which I love sucking by the way)!
I'm sure there's no other world leaders with a close relationship to Bibi and a vested interest in getting Donald Trump elected president driving the Genocide™. Absolutely none at all. I'm sure it was just a tiny coincidence that the Iranian backed militia conducted an unprecedented terrorist attack after years of peace. Just in time to provide the Israeli prime minister in serious legal trouble with a desperately needed distraction that would allow him to cling to power as long as Joe Biden was Genocidin™. Why did Joe Biden make Hamas do that!
If it weren't for Biden I'm sure the UN would march in to Gaza and stop the Genocide™, just like they did for the Uyghur genocide in China, or Tutsie genocide in Rwanda, or the Darfuri genocide in Sudan, or the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar. But no Biden wouldn't let the UN stop any of those genocides either, that bastard!
Lol... you're just in denial. Have fun being a genocide supporter.
Lol I'm glad we can be on team Genocide™ together. Have fun being on team rapist, team Gaza into beach front Israeli real estate, team turning America into a white Christian ethno state, team Ukrainian genocide, team LGBTQ+ hate crime.
I think the neat thing is you aren't in denial at all. You know full well Biden isn't responsible for the Genocide™ in Gaza, your just using it as a thinly veiled excuse to evangelize your love of that orange Trump dick.
Found the rapist supporter.
Biden out there sniffing little girls hair and rubbing all over them. Yall support a pedophile.
You'll need to be more specific. When comparing two choices, it's often beneficial to look at the differences rather than the similarities.
If those people are dumb enough to think Trump would make them better off, fuck it... Burn the whole place down
Biden ought to try to do something to get people to vote for him.
He's been doing things I like on a regular basis. Here's today's example
Hey good for you! We all have things we care about. Top of my list is not doing a genocide. To be fair, I'm not sure how important the anti-genocide bloc is. I'm sure Biden has people doing the math.
Well, I'm sure that voting Trump in (by not voting) is totally going to stop it.
This isn't a both sides bad thing - it's a one side bad, other side literally talking about using nuclear weapons thing.
It's almost like he's trying to walk the line around restraining Netanyahu while also not creating a situation which enables Hamas to commit genocide. I can get behind that.
Especially when the Republican position is 'nuke the Palestinians'
Walking the line? Giving billions in lethal aid (very recent "pause" notwithstanding) to a country actively engaging in genocide, is just pragmatism? That's not convincing enough for me. "Hey Jack, we gotta give Israel military and political aid while they bomb children in a barrel, because if we didn't, 200 guys with AKs and unguided rockets might wipe out the most heavily armed and technologically advanced countries on earth!"
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Treating all criticism of Israel as "anti-Semitism" gives power to actual anti-Semitism.
Keep laughing at the voters who actually care about distinguishing between anti-genocide and anti-semitism
Its fun to make this vote only about a single issue. It's more fun to vote for the guy everyone knows will do worse right away on that specific issue.
That'll make a point.
Bonus? It'll mess up pretty much everything else to varying degrees including the right to vote, so that's a cost that'll linger.
Good job.
What's your reply to those who are already going to vote Biden (not me, ain't from the US)? Do you have any coherent reply other than "Trump is going to be worse"? At what point do people like you stop talking over Biden critics and actually address his misplaced support for Israel?
We already attempted this accelerationist approach in 2016 with Clinton and received Trump and things are much worse due to the 4 years of his first term. Trans rights, reproductive rights, minority rights, and so much more have been eroded in that time. Trump was also able to stack SCOTUS with conservative judges that will have lasting ramifications and two more justices are nearing retirement age in the next presidential cycle. If Trump is elected again, the court will become even more conservative with lasting ramifications that will nearly impossible to undo.
Trump has outright stated he wants Isreal to finish the job and Netanyahu supports him. Biden is not perfect, but literally abstaining from voting for him will make the situation immensely worse for both Gaza and here in the US. To ignore that reality shows ignorance in voting as a single issue voter and shows you have nothing to loose from your privilege. I don't have that grace as a woman in a red state now relagated as reproductive cattle nor do my Trans or Minority friends who just want to live as they are. Voting for Biden avoids the 2025 Handmaid's Tale that the Christian Right desperately wants and still gives us the ability to complain his actions are not enough for Gaza. With Trump that ability absolutely dissolves.
Hey maybe if you don't want Trump in office you should go protests bidens terrible policy. Or you can just shame people who can't morally vote for Biden
I love how people like you whip out the "ur single issue votrrr" when we are talking about a genocide.
this post was submitted on 13 May 2024
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