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[–] christophski@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

There is no meaning, and we must learn to be okay with that.

[–] lunarshot@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Leave it better than you found it!

[–] Felemuso@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

The boy scouting rule πŸ’ͺ

[–] 3melvi@feddit.it 5 points 1 year ago

This is such a loaded question.

Many philosophers tried to answer it, some reaching an optimistic vision, while others concluding it was all doom and gloom (nihilists etc.). There are so many answers, because there are so many variables. To touch the point of the iceberg it depends for example if you believe in the existence of a prime cause (aka God and thus some kind of spiritual dimension) or not; and if yes, how you imagine its attitude (is it sentient? If yes, is it neutral, good or evil? How much does it interfere in the life of the universe? And so on and on...). That shapes how you start to analyze the purpose of human life and existence as a whole. So let's stick on the dilemma of being atheist or theist (avoiding the gray areas like being agnostic, because I'm trying to keep it super simple):

If you say no, there is no God, I believe in the chaotic order that is evolution: you may think for example that the purpose of life is hedonism, the pursuit of pleasure, because you live only once, in the now. And then you enter the rabbit hole of "what kind of hedonism?".

If you say yes and God is caring, the purpose of life is usually the betterment of your soul, to trascend the material dimension. There is an internal evolution here at play. And here the question then is how? You will have to pick which interpretation of the spiritual world convinces you more, a traditional religion or an esoteric philosophy (theosophy etc.).

If your God is neutral, then you probably have full agency, you choose what is you life purpose. You are free to make you own meaning, to play in this playground. The choices here become infinite like the stars.

If your God is evil, like the Gnostic Demiurge, your goal will be to rebel against the current system of oppression, escaping the prison it built to keep you in, for example reaching the true God or becoming your own God.

And, I stress it once more, this is only one of many variables.

In the end nobody knows. This is a personal quest with answers based on your personal intimate experience on what is life, what you currently value, what do you think is it worth living for and the type of relationship you have (or have not) built with its incorporeal, abstract, intuitive, invisible side. Fools are the ones that claim their answer is the only right one, because humanity in its current state does not possess the tools to prove or confute anything on this subject with undeniable evidence. If not fools, then they are manipulative bastards, that want to take advantage of your confusion and lack of direction to persuade you into pursuing a goal that does not benefit you, but them.

[–] balthasar1stern@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] paleowannabe@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

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[–] wizjenkins@lemmy.wizjenkins.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The purpose of life is whatever you make it. Some people feel their purpose is to make as much money as they can, others to create art that will last for all time.

There is no one purpose to life. There's no cosmic point to it all, so we all just find out purpose.

For me, my purpose is to find happiness. I suffer from depression so that's my one goal. I find making people laugh makes me happy, so now I do a podcast where I make people laugh most of the time.

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Do you mind sharing your podcast? I'm doing a lot better nowadays after beginning therapy but some days it's hard.

[–] Grabthar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Or cheese. I suppose either is good.

[–] webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Nature centric: To shit and eventually die on the ground so to maintain the cycle of nutrients.

Species centric: To guarantee the survival of the human species by taking care or our young.

Personal centric: To grab the gift of life with 2 hands, to do what makes you happy and die with a feeling of satisfaction.

Disclaimer: Just some of my personal ideas.

[–] dystop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Depends on who you ask. Plato, Nietzsche, Camus would have a brawl just discussing how to define the meaning of purpose.

Personally, I like absurdism. There is no intrinsic meaning. You're not an eventuality, just a coincidence. You're dealt a hand and expected to get something out of it, which is kinda fucked. But hey fuck it, there's cool stuff around too, plenty to find your own meaning.

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Like everything else, you are part of something and made of other things. But for some reason, we seem to be aware enough of what is above and below, what is past and what seems to be coming. Why that should lead to suffering is a matter of managing expectations.

It's not to be fruitful and multiply cause if you think that's the case then there're some truly horrible people who are succeeding doing some terrible and illegal stuff.

[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Biologically: To keep your DNA existing by procrating so that roughly half of you DNA live on in your children (I say roughly half since there are mutations and stuff)

For Humanity: Develop technology, expand our presence by colonizing the solar system, the galaxy, and the universe.

Religiously: To serve whatever diety or dieties you believe in.

Philosophical:

-Hedonism: Do whatever to be happy.

-Nihilism: Nothing matters

-Probably many more under the umbrella of philosophy, but these 2 are the main ones I remember

That's all is on the top of my mind. For me, the biological view on meaning of life is kinda shit. I don't wanna deal with crying babies (eww... disguisting babies), I will never have children.

Now the idea that Humanity will expand and we will become interstellar, thats kinda what I think the meaning of life is, I mean that more of on the society level, not personal. Well then personally, its probably Hedonism. One person like me ain't gonna make any difference in humanity, I'll just do whatever makes me happy. Thats my meaning of life.

[–] annegreen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I believe that the true purpose of life is to partake in the divine nature through communion in the body of Christ.

ClichΓ©, yeah, but I honestly believe that God, by very definition, is the ultimate Good, and the origin and purpose of life.

[–] nzodd@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The universe is a cruel, uncaring void. The key to being happy isn't a search for meaning. It's to just keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense, and eventually, you'll be dead.

[–] Edo78@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes reality can be scary. This is the only reason I can think of about the downvotes they gave you

[–] nzodd@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Or because it was a low effort TV reference, in which case fair enough.

[–] Rentlar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Reflect on your past. Cherish your present. Forge your future. This is what I think life's true purpose is.

[–] MrComradeTaco@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

There is Huzza porpoise, Algerine porpoise, even Mealy-mouthed porpoise. Plenty of cetology to be had.

[–] abclop99@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

To create more life?