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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 141 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Clothes are just clothes - people should be able to dress however the fuck they want.

Separately, Florida should stop being a bunch of transphobic assholes.

[-] dankm@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 years ago

Yup. Trans or not a girl should be allowed to wear a suit or a dress. So should a boy. As long as it qualifies as "formal" for either group it ought to qualify for the other.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

As long as your dinguses and danguses are covered, all good.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

people should be able to dress however the fuck they want.

I don't wanna wear pants.

Then don't. I'm trying to single-handedly bring the kilt back, myself.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I want to be like that too, but it was still snowing just a week ago...

[-] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 97 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Official statement on the matter reads:

All students are treated equally at MCA...

Except this case proves that to be a lie. I'm sure there were boys in suits there. Unless boys are also required to wear dresses? If that's not the case, then this is a clear case of one student being treated differently from others.

[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Mason Classical Academy"

If folks don't know, in the charter school world, "Classical Academies" are often code for right wing indoctrination. The idea is that if you just focus on the "classics" of western education and their direct descendants, then HEY NOW! Suddenly Rudyard Kipling is your best insight into Indian literature, and Joseph Conrad into African. The American founding fathers were totally into Roman republicanism! The King James Bible is literally poetry! What is a Chinua Achebe anyway?!?!?!?!?!?

It's an inherently conservative idea that a viable totality of useful knowledge is contained within books that are all part of the western canon circa 1937, so even if a few schools engage in it in good faith, a watered down version offered at the primary and secondary levels is just catnip for those who want to engage in a little brain washing at the public expense.

Edit: This MCA is likely a little less explicitly creepy than some, but it's an E.D. Hirsch "Core Knowledge Foundation" school that is designed to hammer home a certain set of facts and cultural touchstones, rather than worrying about the emotional well being or broad-based thinking skills that a good modern curriculum will include. It's basically the old story of "old person sees kids don't know everything he was taught, lashes out at schools," if it were from a curmudgeonly English professor. It almost certainly draws the same type of parents and administrators that other Classical Academies do.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 years ago

My guess for the mental gymnastics behind this is that they mean they are treating everyone equally, within their gender roles.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Which is still unconstitutional, as the Supreme Court ruled that a woman could not be made to dress in typically female clothing as a condition of her employment... I mean unless it's something like Hooters or Professional Modeling I guess.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

I dont have a horse in this race, am not american either for that matter, but I dont think being a student at some school counts as employment.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I went to a pretty uptight Lutheren high school 25 years ago and one of my male classmates wore a dress to prom because he wanted to. No one got upset and he was very happy. Too many edgelords are in positions of power these days.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

The party of “personal liberty” strikes again

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

the personal liberty to conform or face exclusion at best, violent responses at worse.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

I hope she's got a non-shithole state lined up to move to once she's done with secondary school.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago

If that school receives any federal funding this seems like a cut and dried Title IX case.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Damn. When I was in high school, we had a Sadie Hawkins dance (where the roles are reversed: girls ask boys, they pay for the tickets, etc) each year, along with homecoming and prom for the seniors. My senior year, a classmate told me that she had always wanted to go to said dance with a guy who would dress as a girl, so I immediately offered to do it because I thought it'd be fun.

Aside from a couple chaperones and the principal avoiding eye contact with me at all costs, no one said anything bad. The other guys thought it was either whatever or funny, and the girls didn't give a shit.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

This should never be an issue. My dad's partner went to my cousin's wedding wearing a suit, she hates dresses so went in a suit and she's completely cis and straight.

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

"Why don't you just be a gender nonconforming <ASAB>?" trans people get asked, from reasonably well-meaning people who don't Get It. My sibling in Christ, even if we did, look what happens.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Suits and similar "nice," "professional," and "formal" clothing dress codes are designed to foster class divide.

[-] b3an@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

The moment I read 'Florida' I went ah, of course.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

My first guess was Alabama

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

There's always Iowa!

[-] anubis119@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

"Unfortunately, that's the rules." As if there was some fortune or luck involved.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

As if we didn't write the rules.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

And the gender police strike again.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Land of ~~the free~~ rules based on intolerance and bigotry. Still better than Iran, but as it's going, that's not a sure thing to last.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Land of the free, just be a wite right wing nutcase.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Of course she was. It’s fucking Florida, where transphobia is the government norm.

Edit: she looked awesome, too. I like how she worked in the green Docs.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Oh I missed the green Docs - glad you pointed them out. Very nice!

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

What a stupid fucking rule. What a stupid fucking school.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Red states should lose all right to govern themselves.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

What else does she expect in the land of the free

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