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Biden's 5 year plan (hexbear.net)
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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/2543543

hadn't seen these put into a single image yet

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[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Tariffs in general aren't inherently bad if they protect domestic interests, especially against a foreign power that is subsidizing production as part of an economic power play. If Trump had limited his tariffs to China and Russia not included all of our allies I would have agreed with him. If we didn't desperately need more EVs and if US automakers weren't such colossal assholes about making good cheap EVs I'd agree with this one

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

We don't "desperately" need more EVs. But if you want more domestically produced EVs for some reason, you nationalize the auto-industry and mandate them. Tariffs in capitalism just mean that the protected industries increase profits on the same or even less supply.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

More like determined to try delaying the inevitable lol

[–] Omgarm@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not particulary in favor of Biden specifically but the left tweet doesn't say tarrifs are bad per se, just on who the burden lands. Apparently that knowledge does not stop him from implementing them.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Of course. These tariffs are just to protect the US capitalists' profits. At the expense of the working class as always.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 months ago

While that's correct, it's also correct that the society including the working class benefits from locally produced products as they increase the local rather than international cashflow.

But of course, the main profiteers will be the higher ups.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 16 points 4 months ago

I’m determined to ensure the higher prices pass to consumers, thereby making alternative energy more expensive and thus less in demand, thus raising demand for oil and gas

Is that what you meant Biden?

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 6 points 4 months ago

Wheres the tarrifs on things that are killing us, Joe? Where's the carbon tax?

[–] Ozone6363@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

What?

These 2 tweets are NOT at odds with one another, what the fuck?

In the first he is poking fun at Trumps misunderstanding of Tariffs, who pays them, and their purpose.

In the second tweet he says he is using Tariffs to protect our countries interests in those industries.

He doesn't imply who pays them.... can you read? Do you understand what you're looking at?

He is implying that putting a 100% tarrif on cheap dogshit EV's made with near literal slave labor negates China's unfair advantage. Not to mention the Chinese stole the fuck out of the IP required to make them.

Do you like our intellectual property being stolen from us, manufactured via worker exploitation, and then sold back to us on the cheap? If not, you shouldn't be against this shit.

Fuck man.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

He is implying that putting a 100% tarrif on cheap dogshit EV’s made with near literal slave labor negates China’s unfair advantage. Not to mention the Chinese stole the fuck out of the IP required to make them.

You've invented a completely new reality (none of this is stated in the tweet) while claiming the same of the original post.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Lol "our intellectual property"? Its not yours and never will be. Enjoy slobbering that capitalist knob