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Russia amps up nuclear threat.

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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 60 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Instilling fear to gain more control, classic weak dictator.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 13 points 6 months ago

I hope his senile ass is crossing the line to the point that the people of Russia are more afraid to leave him alive. That said, I had hoped that point was also several years ago, so I'm ashamedly not very optimistic right now.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Russia amps up nuclear theatre. FTFY

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Putin does this because it works. His whole motif is deception. We're too naive to properly deal with that scumbag.

[–] JesusSon@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  1. Use tactical nukes in Ukraine
  2. get sanctioned out of existence/bombed back to the Paleolithic era
  3. ????
  4. Profit
[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

He won’t just fling nukes to Ukraine. If he’s going to do that he’s going for much more. He also doesn’t care if 95% of the world suffer from the nuclear fallout

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago

Given the effectiveness of the ruzzian orc army and preparedness of NATO to meet their threats, I wouldn't be surprised if most, not all the silos were hit before they could even launch.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

"Nuclear fallout" in modern nukes is isolated to the area they hit. As such, modern nukes aren't going to irradiate the atmosphere that would lead to a Fallout video-game style world.

What they will do is kill a f*** ton of people and thermally destroy a specific area REALLY hard. If you're in the blast radius, you won't even know it. You'll be dead from the shockwave so fast you'll have literally less than a second of confusion before you get turned into meat mist.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And who says Russia will use "modern" nukes?

We've already seen rusty museum pieces on the front line in this conflict.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Modern nukes are also more damaging and explosive. I'd imagine if Russia wanted to go full agro, they'd use the biggest ass bomb they can muster.

But you're right.....they might not use H bombs and opt for A bombs instead.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is that true? :o I thought the way nukes irradiated the atmosphere was through all the dust and shit thrown up during the explosion being blown around by wind currents? Has that changed with new nukes?

[–] ours@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I have serious doubts about how "clean" even a modern nuke is but modern weapons are supposedly more efficient and therefore cleaner than WW2 equivalents. The other factor is where the bomb is detonated.

At ground level, it irradiates and throws up more material than if it is detonated high up in the air in an air burst configuration.

In any case, any kind of nuke crosses a diplomatic line that would bring a world of hurt against Putin which is not worth the tactical win. His nukes are way more useful as a saber to rattle to scare off Western countries from supporting Ukraine too effectively out of fear of escalation.

I could only see Putin use nukes in a desperate last-ditch defense against invaders at Moscow's gates.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

More worried about this triggering an ice age and subsequent global failure of what crops remain.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago

It'll counteract the global warming! /s

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

when you say modern nukes, do you mean simply H-bombs/thermonuclear/fusion bombs?

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That and also bombs designed to detonate near the surface with an initially downward explosive force.

[–] cygon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I believe the idea is:

  1. Mention nukes and grab everyone's attention
  2. Run social media campaign ("oh noes, is leading us into war with nuclear power, they bad")
  3. Have bought politicians and lobbyists push to reduce sanctions or block additional sanctions
  4. Profit.

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But increasingly, I see step 2 fail and people simply hate the guy more for his destructive megalomania, as they should.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We know how the last "military drills" went. Better to launch some preemptive strikes on those positions, before they can fire them towards Ukraine.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

i don't think the nukes are where the drills take place, that would be quite stupid

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago

Unless you intend to actually use them while covering for the launch with alleged "drills", just like they covered for the invasion with alleged military drills. Either way, you would still hit Russian troops in any case anyway.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It also wouldn't be very smart to shoot at potentially armed nukes, tbh.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (7 children)

It's actually pretty difficult to detonate a nuke by shooting at it, if that's what you're getting at.

A certain set of things has to happen in a very specific order with tight timings (milliseconds) in order for it to actually explode.

Hence all the incidents in the US of accidentally dropped nukes on domestic territory and no boom boom.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nukes need high explosives. The most modern ones use extremely stable explosives but some of the Cold War era accidents in the US often did go boom but not BOOOOOOOM.

Still bad exploding weapons-grade radioactive material. Thankfully not as bad as a nuclear explosion.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Pardon me sir, but I did say "boom boom" which is roughly equivalent to one "BOOOOOOOM", assuming we're using the metric system.

If we're you're using imperial boom scale, then frankly you disgust me.

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[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This man has shown us what he intends to do, for years!

People who have devoted their careers to understanding this man will tell you.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

IIRC, analysts say he is of the position that, “The world will only exist where Russia continues to be a ‘Superpower Nation’”. Or WTTE.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ok thanks. He has to know that China is more of a threat to Russian hegemony than Europe or America. Because climate change is gonna exacerbate problems on his eastern borders.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He's already well on the way to being a lapdog for Shanghai. He's destroyed any semblance of political power Russia had, popped the balloon of military competence, is relying on them for stockpiles to continue to wage a war that Russia has already lost (even if they take the land, they've lost more than they can ever take [personnel, materiel, intelligence], and the Ukrainian people suffer for it), and encouraged NATO to grow more in a year than it had in decades.

Russia cozying up to China has already eaten into Russian hegemony before you even get to climate change effects.

[–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What I don't get is why anything these guys are saying makes the news. It's changing every day, and it's always a lie. They know it, everyone else knows it, it doesn't make any sense to write about it.

[–] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I thought bird is the word

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago

Sounds like some perfect targets for ATACMs with cluster munitions. Liven up those drills for the orks.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Can we use up one of those rods from god from the Reagan era? Maybe then he’ll at least have contributed to one good deed

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Never put em in space, as far as I know.

[–] Ozymati 6 points 6 months ago

If he nukes Ukraine he's not going to be able to use it

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Russia on Tuesday announced it has started tactical nuclear weapons exercises near Ukraine, as Moscow again accused the West of being "provocative."

The Kremlin's Southern Military District troops "are practicing combat training tasks of obtaining special ammunition for the Iskander operational-tactical missile system, equipping launch vehicles with them and covertly advancing to the designated position area in preparation for missile launches," Russia's defense ministry said in a statement Tuesday afternoon.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has made veiled nuclear threats toward the West for years, since he began a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, leaving tens of thousands of people dead, and towns and cities in ruins.

Western allies have supported Ukraine with military equipment to help Kyiv fend off Putin's aggression.

Military personnel "involved in the exercise practise equipping aviation weapons with special warheads, including the Kinzhal aeroballistic hypersonic missiles, and flying into designated patrol areas," the Kremlin added.

Earlier this month, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov accused French President Emmanuel Macron and "British representatives" of provoking Russia's nuclear escalation, after U.K. Foreign Secretary David Cameron said during a trip to Kyiv that Ukraine could strike Russia with British weapons, while Macron has floated the possibility of sending Western troops to fight in Ukraine.


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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Picture this, except long and curved.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just the thought of that gets me there....nobody? Just me?

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Me, but only because I just used a needle to inject boner meds in my cock

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