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### About Community Tracking and helping #redditmigration to Kbin and the Fediverse. Say hello to the decentralized and open future. To see latest reeddit blackout info, see here: https://reddark.untone.uk/

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[–] TooL@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh.. my feed has been nothing but straight porn or pictures of John Oliver.. sometimes both at the same time.

[–] unknown_name@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's only one thing left to do.

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
[–] Casmael@geddit.social 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What tf is going on over there I’ve not been to Reddit since the 11th

[–] zedtronic@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit is now filled with a bunch of people saying "we don't even NEED mods! they just make everything worse!", because this is apparently their first time on the Internet.

[–] JoeCoT@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a Hacker News discussion where in separate comments, a guy said:

  • all the moderators should go away because they're not needed, and he doesn't agree with their decisions
  • but there should still be moderation
  • but he's not going to do it because he's not here to do unpaid labor
  • but of course he wouldn't pay for there to be moderators

Internet discourse in a nutshell

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think we talked to the same guy

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@NoIWontPickaName

@Raji_Lev @Casmael @zedtronic @JoeCoT

Chances are good that it was separate dudes. This is not an uncommon thought loop.

Aw.. I went and made myself sad.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@dismalnow do we have to tag people here for them to see replies?

[–] Raji_Lev@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been getting notified of replies even when I don't get tagged

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[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@zedtronic

@Raji_Lev @Casmael

Yeah. My tendencies are pretty tame anymore, and my inner troll just started salivating.

[–] kestrel7@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Right now some guy is typing "COMMENCE OPERATION ASS FUCK" into some fucked up window

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] wafer@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The people that cared distanced themselves already so a new majority of indifference starts to emerge. Those that are still active on Reddit are now more likely to just want things back to normal.

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[–] claymedia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either only the scabs are left, or there’s a concerted smear campaign against the mods who helped with the blackout. I lean towards the latter, but it’s probably both.

[–] Gargleblaster@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of upset users who had no idea that a protest had been planned for weeks ahead of time or that the protests made the news.

They just showed up looking for their content, and having it cut off is like when your heroin supplier leaves town.

I talked to some kid who was furious he couldn't see r/starwars.

And he blamed it all on the mods.

When I explained the whole history of what was happening, he said he supported the protest but wanted to subs to go public again.

:/

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean...what's wrong with that? The original meme talks about society, something you can't opt-out of.

You can absolutely opt-out of Reddit. Reddit is a private company and it's CEO has announced he doesn't care what the users of the site think, he will be making any changes he damn well pleases. Continuing to use the site after the CEO has already given a hardline "No" to all requests (and then telling the media he idolizes Musk and his overhaul of Twitter) is implicitly accepting you're fine with the answer and the changes.

[–] mkhoury@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the problem stems from the fact that Reddit and other 'private' businesses are acting like public squares. People use these systems as public spaces in which they can build communities, relationships and ideas. It's not just a question of "well it's private so they can do whatever they want". Lawful is the same thing as ethical. Some people on Reddit have their society on Reddit. What does Reddit owe them? It's a demand to ask 'How should Reddit and other businesses participate in society in a way that is ethical and helpful?'

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think the problem stems from the fact that Reddit and other ‘private’ businesses are acting like public squares.

Oh absolutely, but is that the fault of the private company or the people who use it? There are now alternatives that are decentralized and run on free open source software with the specific purpose of creating public spaces that can exist without pressures from CEOs, shareholders, and advertisers. Why not use them instead of whining on Twitter about Twitter or complaining on Reddit about Reddit?

[–] mkhoury@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know why. Network effects, usability, marketing, astroturfing, etc.

We need to do a better job at making the Fediverse more inviting and easier to use. Have a better, clear path for migration.

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should start by designing better and more informative UX, and ditch the email analogies altogether.

Nobody imagines the correct thing when we harp on about how decentralized and amazing everything is, analogous to email but also reddit and twitter combined but also different but it doesn't matter because it's all the same in the end.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problem is how do you make migration easy without running into centralisation again. You ideally need to spread people out across the Fediverse, or we will just end up with another monolithic Reddit that can do what it wants

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[–] Untitled9999@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

People use these systems as public spaces in which they can build communities

What really amused me is when Reddit sent messages to moderators saying things like "your subreddits are public spaces which users depend on, so you should open them".

When obviously what they mean is "your decision to close your subreddit is hurting our revenues, and if I don't keep up the payments on my BMW then I'll be forced to drive an old Honda, so either open the subreddit or we will forcibly do it ourselves".

[–] blaamejsen@feddit.dk 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

There’s a new post from Christian Selig where he addresses false statements from Reddit on the front page. It has 109k upvotes 😂

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[–] zaktmt@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been lurking on old.reddit.com and I've seen a lot of people who are upset about the protesting. They are calling it childish, they are calling protesters white knights, etc. If you go on r/JustUnsubbed you can see a bunch of people whining about it. But it really just shows people don't get it nor do they care to. They just care about being mildly inconvenienced.

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@zaktmt

@Raji_Lev

If you go on r/JustUnsubbed

Your first mistake. Whiners whining about whining whiners.

[–] zaktmt@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of them are starting to go on r/Save3rdPartyApps to tell people who are upset to "get off our high horse" lol

It's just sad that people are trying to defend corporate greed man...

[–] sour@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@sour

@Raji_Lev @zaktmt

Imagine learning that people are eating free food at Burger King and complaining that they're not serving McDonald's at regular price.

[–] Syltti@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, what? I need details on this.

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Syltti

@Raji_Lev @zaktmt @sour

It's a very poor analogy.

I suppose it works better like so:

Imagine..

You're in line at McDonald's talking to a buddy about how Burger King has better quality, is free, and that you'll not be returning to McDonald's in July because their burgers are going to cost $0.24 per microgram, and the owner is a clown.

Someone unaffiliated with McDonald's who is also standing in hears your comment and starts shouting for you to "GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!"

.. not because they don't like Burger King.
.. not because they have never tried Burger King.

But because they closely identify with McDonald's, and the clown that represents it.

Hope that's clear. Heh

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

Me commenting before the protest

"You are NOT contributing with those low effort comments"

Me commenting after the protest

"ANY kind of interaction is contributing!"

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I appreciate the idea that they are doing their best to make the protest impossible to ignore.

[–] gkd@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty much how the whole site is going right now.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The people bringing actual content there have mostly left from what I can tell, now it's almost all reposts.

Unfortunately that seems to be enough to sustain a platform nowadays.

[–] TheDeadGuy@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The bot accounts are becoming the most active

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[–] Tashlan@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The contempt reddit's defenders have for reddit is a bit boggling. They seem to truly hate the site and the communities they want to be open, and they seem to truly hate the mods. Spez ought to be careful with friends like that, they are guaranteed to dislike whatever his next subreddit banning is

[–] Syltti@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So reddit is becoming World of Warcraft. Genuinely disturbing.

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[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 2 points 1 year ago

Unironically.

[–] Raji_Lev@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

(there was a lot more that I could've/wanted to put in there)

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