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Informal Lemmy U.N.? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/2491711

I was wondering if there was a community where admins of different instances got together and chat in general about decisions for how they run their instances.

Sort of like an informal U.N. for Lemmy admins.

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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suspect something like this already exists to some extent on discord or matrix servers. Which probably works quite well.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, most admins are in a matrix chat.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are there sanctions on Hexbear at the moment, lol.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ah yes a favorite of the western world to inflict untold suffering and death by starvation on those they deem "authoritarian"

lemmygrad and hexbear are the Russia and China of the Lemmy U.N security council, lemmy.world can be the united states, beehaw can be the UK (they are an island get it??) and lemmy.ml can be france (sorry)

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's Lemm.ee? Switzerland?

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jack@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Estonia, but big

[–] spiderman@ani.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

bigger instances would have a veto power and smaller instances might be forced to take the same action as them if they make a collective decision, even if they don't want to do it personally.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Things are already like that somewhat, as far as I can see.

Smaller instances for the most part need to have registration signups or capcha as a minimum, otherwise they risk swift defederation from larger instances when spammers arrive

As lemmy's mod tools improve I see things moving away from this approach though

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

That's why I included the words informal, but I get your point I hope it doesn't become too bureaucratic and is just a place for admins to build trust and communication with each other so federation/defederation is a more conscious decision.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see this going well. But I can also see them creating issues by consensus, such as "defederation blocklists" and "user blacklists", they also have our names, emails, and IP addresses right? Instance admins have quite real power already. Perhaps users also ought to have such democratic discussions?

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I agree with you. What do you think we as users could do to make this happen?

Also on a sidenote has anyone thought of creating a publicly owned instance before? I wonder how that would work.