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[–] dragThruGardenPlz@midwest.social 118 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

They need to give both as many and as much drugs as they want. If drugs will somehow make them coherent, make it a requirement. I honestly don’t see a downside. They can even advertise for the drugs and everyone still wins

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 88 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You sound like the sort of person who would really enjoy the All Drug Olympics. :-)

[–] diviledabit@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So just the regular Olympics then?

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

No, the drug Olympics gives them downers too.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 months ago

So many exploding hearts.

[–] dragThruGardenPlz@midwest.social 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

“Only FDA-approved substances will be allowed” (but we’re not going to do any testing so go wild!)

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

All drug olympics you say? ...wonder if they'll have figure toking.

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[–] the_frumious_bandersnatch@programming.dev 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly this.

"Sorry Mr. President, the policies you enacted during the triple hurricane saved thousands of lives, but the drug test you took beforehand were positive for mood stabilizers so we've invalidated your policies and everyone who was saved by them has been taken out back and shot."

This isn't the fucking Olympics. But then debates are a terrible way to judge a president to begin with.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

Debates where candidates debated the actual question/issue raised were useful. Whatever we have nowadays as they talk about unrelated things and try to find their 7s soundbite are useless.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 110 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would they panic? They'll just play their usual pigeon chess: knocking the pieces over, crapping on the board, and flying off to announce that they have won.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

They saw him during the State of the Union and it didn't match the clips and memes from their echo chamber that they live in.

They tried to blame drugs (pigeon chess) and no normal person has bought it. They don't have a plan B for when people actually hear him talk.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 89 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Ate out with the wife tonight, and got an unexpected political back-to-back: the restaurant had CNN playing on one end of my field of view, and Fox on the other.

CNN reported on all kinds of shit. Every time I looked up, different topic. They went back to the upcoming debate and the Gaza genocide a couple times, but otherwise just an even spread of unfolding events.

Fox spent most of the time talking about how left wing media will spin the debate to make Trump look like an extremist; and then a few small snips about how illegal immigrants are terrorizing our society and getting our youth hooked on fentanyl. They even managed to bitch about Hillary lol, although I missed the context... assuming they're still rambling about emails.

People who watch Fox must be terrified and angry like all the time lol.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People who watch Fox must be terrified and angry like all the time lol.

That's the point.

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[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I completely missed the "with" in your first sentence and, wow, I had some thoughts and feelings which I am glad I didn't share without re-reading what you wrote first.

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[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 83 points 5 months ago (9 children)
[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 21 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Adderall, if you don't have ADHD, will act as a stimulant but does nothing to make you smarter or more coherent. It also does nothing for dementia that the Trump team wants everyone to believe Joe has, somehow without symptoms. Trump on the other hand has MANY symptoms of dementia, and appears to be declining quickly.

Pretending that a drug even exists that somehow Biden could take that would make him alert and dementia free for a debate (or State of the Union) just helps muddy the water around Trump's decline.

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[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I say, test both of them!

They should both be tested for drugs often, the working class is forced to undergo drug testing, why not the owner class as well, they are 'civil servants'; by multiple people and organizations, that would be fun to see differences in reports and writeups, even more if data is shown on what chemicals are in their system.

The claims arrive as Trump himself changes his tune on how well Biden may perform at the CNN debate. Having previously called Biden the "worst debater I have ever faced," Trump recently told the All-In Podcast that the president will be a "worthy debater" and that he does not want to "underestimate" Biden on Thursday.

"If President Biden needs to take performance enhancing drugs in order to participate in this week's debate, then it is imperative that he and his physician disclose that to the American people," Jackson said. "CNN's people leaked debate questions to Hillary Clinton in 2016," Grenell posted on X. Grenell was making reference to previous reports on how former chair of the Democratic National Committee Donna Brazile gave notice to Clinton's team about a debate question ahead of her 2016 debate with Trump.

"CNN's people leaked debate questions to Hillary Clinton in 2016," Grenell posted on X. Grenell was making reference to previous reports on how former chair of the Democratic National Committee Donna Brazile gave notice to Clinton's team about a debate question ahead of her 2016 debate with Trump.

Responding to the incident, Leavitt told Newsweek: "CNN cutting off my microphone for bringing up a debate moderator's history of anti-Trump lies just proves our point that President Trump will not be treated fairly in Thursday's debate.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Agreed that the position should be subject to drug testing. You have to be sober as a cat to pilot a commercial plane, but a speed junkie can have nukes? Insane.

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

“Sober as a cat” is a funny expression, because they’re the only type of pet I can think of that gets drugs (catnip) for fun.

I agree about presidential drug testing though.

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[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I really want to know the specific “performance enhancing drugs” these people think Biden is using. No hand-waving. Be explicit and tell everyone what magical drugs these are and then let’s test them both for these drugs.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 21 points 5 months ago (11 children)

They can't, because no drug is available that both pumps you up, and helps the symptoms of dementia for a short burst of time. It's all an effort to muddy the water about Trump's clear cognitive decline that appears to be accelerating. If elected for another term, he may well be like Regan, with an even more evil "Nancy" in his ear "guiding" him everyday (and to essential be running the country while keeping Trump's decline on the DL).

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

Ive heard IRL people say its rigged because apparently mics will be turned off if it isn't their turn? Idk if thats true but I'm fully behind the idea personally lol.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The interruptions, while “entertaining”, should not exist in a debate so consequential. I feel like high school debate clubs have more decorum than any presidential debate in the last 16 years. Mic cuts are absolutely needed.

[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Idk. I was in a highschool debate club a bit over a decade ago, and I was very good at the public forum event. Like, regularly in the top 32 for both the NFL and CFL national tournaments good. There were other people at the top of that ladder with me that made very effective use of the "pound the table" strategy, and how well it worked often boiled down to judge variance. People act that way in debates because it absolutely works on some viewers

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

They seriously think debates are won by volume or persistence.

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Both of these guys are ancient. I wouldn't care if any of them used drugs (as long as they don't pose long-term risks for their health) because they might as well be medication. Or are we going to be so dense that the idea that two 80 years olds are likely taking some medication is going to fly over our heads? Furthermore, where do we draw the line of what a "drug-enhancing drug" is? Coffee? Most adults take it to function under inhuman schedules. Adderall? If you do have ADHD, you do also need it to function; if you don't have it, it's going be even less useful than coffee. Anything else that they bought at a pharmacy? I don't care.

All in all, this looks like a talking point made up by people who want to treat politics like a sport, where we're supposed to watch "athletes" compete with equal opportunity for performance, which is definitely not what a presidential debate should be about.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Furthermore, where do we draw the line of what a "drug-enhancing drug" is?

I want drug-enhancing drugs

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

The typo will stay.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

They're more likely using "wakefulness promoting agents" like modafinil and armodafinil (Provogil/Nuvigil respectively, or probably some better shit in the same class) which are actually kind of amazing and I have zero issue with them taking it.

Non-euphoric, and as far as I'm aware, not physically habit forming; it just keeps you awake and alert, I don't know how else to describe it. Essentially none of the side effects (pleasurable or not) of traditional stimulants. After about 8-10 hours you sleep pretty ok.

I'm really not sure why these drugs haven't become more popular over the last decade or two... Probably the whole "not habit forming" thing.

I've got a stash that I've had in a drawer for 5+ years and I'll take one like three times a year or something as needed.

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[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is kind of obvious and I probably don't have to say it but..

Trump is doing this to weasel his way out of a debate he shouldn't have agreed to. No way in hell Trump subjects himself to the same drug test. He's betting on Biden not agreeing to it either so he can just say "well those liberals are obviously playing dirty so I'm out"

The drugs in question are necessarily irrelevant

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

On one hand I'm glad the media is reporting on this. On the other hand they seem to be signal boosting a lot of the messaging from the right

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

texas rep. Ronny Jackson is among those who have demanded that Biden take part in a drug test before and after Thursday's debate. Jackson, who served as Trump's White House physician and medical adviser... [said] "If President Biden needs to take performance enhancing drugs in order to participate in this week's debate, then it is imperative that he and his physician disclose that to the American people," Jackson said.

In that case, anything that you wanted to disclose to the American people there, Ronny? It's always just breathless, impotent projection...

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does anybody else find it a little sad that Ronny Jackson simps for Trump when Trump can't even remember his name when talking about him? Or did he just change his name to Ronny Johnson so that the god-king doesn't have to be wrong?

I mean, I would find it sad if I weren't completely out of sympathy for these Trump sycophants who let Trump talk shit about them publicly so that they can cling to power a little longer. Especially the shitheels who criticized Trump and now find themselves kissing the ring and bending the knee to get that VP nom.

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[–] charade_you_are@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump could take all the Adderall available in the world and he would still be a fucking moron.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If Trump is going to challenge Biden to a mental coherency test, why doesn't Biden challenge Trump to a bicycle race or a 2k run? After all, Trump has declared himself the healthiest President in history. (But a race like that would have good possibility of causing Trump a heart attack... which would of course be an unfortunate outcome).

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

Yes very unfortunate. Certainly nothing to wish, pray, or perform dark rituals for. Certainly not.

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[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope Biden points out the diapers and the smell.

[–] palordrolap@kbin.run 20 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I've said this before and I'll say it again: There are better things to attack Trump for than how he looks, what physical conditions he has or how he smells.

At face value, those sorts of things have little effect on the ability to run a country well.

Even his hair is a better target because how he wears it would appear to show vanity, a quality that might actually interfere with stable management. That's still a relatively big stretch without other evidence (of which there would appear to be plenty) though.

Attack his ideas, his intents, his politics. He makes this easy enough, right? Start there.

"LOL u smel" is something you expect in the playground. Something Trump himself might use, perhaps.

We have to be better than that.

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They should only get to wear underpants - tidy whiteys! Nothing bulky or absorbent!

Trump should have to wear an orange jumpsuit with a serial number on the left breast and "INMATE" stamped clearly on the back.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Bone apple tea

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[–] fah_Q@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's not like the test will be fair or legitimate anyway. Look at the whacks they currently have rubber stamping the two bastions of health and mental stability.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

dookie donald

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