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[–] fsk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those charities have huge overhead. Very little money goes to the actual cause.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

There are sites to check how much actually goes out. Check before you donate.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My favorite one is when our utility company asks me to donate to help pay for people's utilities like they aren't raking in record amount of cash.

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[–] FreeDiverX@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

First, please don't link to Reddit...

Many Of The Largest Charities In America Are Giant Money Making Scams
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/many-of-the-largest-charities-in-america-are-giant-money-making-scams

[–] MobileSuitBagera@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember kids, they also get to use the money they guilted off of you to reduce their tax liability because they get credit for donating your money!

[–] mighty_alfredo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do not, at least in the US.

[–] axtualdave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It depends on exactly what the store is doing.

If the store is representing the extra charge as a donation to a specific charity, generally, the customer can deduct that.

If it's far more vague, like, "Give $10 to help poor kids in Africa" the ultimate destination for the funds could be the company's own ledgers, which it would then use for its own charitable activities and collect the tax deduction, as long as they "help poor kids in Africa."

And some stores are just lying. CVS, for instance, was sued as part of a class action suit when, after the company pledges $10 million to the American Diabetes Association, then collected money from customers to fund that pledge.

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or just...donate the perfectly good food they constantly throw out into the cadged dumpsters designed to keep homeless people out... Litteraly would cost them nothing...

[–] JimmyDean@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

"But if we feed them then those broke homeless people won't come in and spend their (nonexistent) money on our food!" -upper management

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[–] Licensed_to_ill@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Those donations you make can help them deduct from taxes, right?

[–] neanderthal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here me out before accusing me of being a billionaire toady.

Not really, at least not in the US. Charitable contributions are a deduction from taxable income, not a credit, so it is still a net financial loss to donate.

Where the benefit comes is the PR and power over the organization they donate to and its sphere of influence.

[–] git@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It is a net loss if you donate your own money, in this situation Company isn't donating from it's own revenue. It is donating customers money.

If I donated 1000$ and claimed tax deductible it would be a net loss. But if I asked everyone for donations, raised 1000$, donated that and claimed tax deductible that wouldn't be a net loss.

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, which is why you should donate yourself if you are inclined to do so.

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[–] Janus67@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's a myth as it isn't income it goes into a separate fund to transfer 1:1.

[–] neanderthal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if it is revenue, it is still a net loss. All it does is reduce taxable income, which is still makes the donation a net loss. For anyone not aware, the current federal US corporate income tax rate is 21%. So if a company gives 100 dollars to charity, they only save 21 dollars in taxes, so they are still down roughly 79 dollars, depending on the state taxes of where they are incorporated.

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[–] danielton@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just wait until you get a tip prompt on a self checkout kiosk...

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[–] AltF4me@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] zombuey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Just FYI this is a sort of scam. ~~The company donates the money on your behalf and they get the tax write-off for your donation while also appearing philanthropic for PR purposes~~. that's why they do it.

EDIT: US companies cannot do this in the US you can claim up to $300 on taxes. This is legit in the US.

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[–] norapink@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate these donate screens because I have no idea where the donation actually goes and i don't want to have to do a ton of research at the grocery checkout about whether its a good charity.

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[–] Spacecraft@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hate when they pull this shit at drive through fast food. “Would you like to round up to donate to our charity?”

Who knows what the person taking my order thinks about this charity, and what they might do to someone’s food who says no.

Edit: The fact that merely implying a fast food worker wouldn’t be a complete perfect human being gets so many downvotes says a whole lot about this community.

[–] sirkook@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can assure you that nobody working at the fast food restaurant gives a shit if you donate to charity.

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[–] Skellybones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I just say no

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

PSA: most Americans can get up to $300 deducted from their annual taxes through donations.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They wouldn't be rich if they donated THEIR money, right?

[–] demvoter@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don’t trust them to actually donate anyway. How would you ever find out? I suspect these are scams to hold the money and get interest off it even if they do ultimately donate it.

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[–] EmergingDystopia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, this really bothers me. Because in reality, that company that you give money to at checkout is just going to bundle that all up and it's a donation in their name, used as a tax write-off. You as the shopper might feel nice and warm and fuzzy, but you're just giving a multimillion or billion dollar company a tax break. Just donate as yourself. If you want to help XYZ cause, do it on your own. My two cents.

[–] mighty_alfredo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's not how it works, at least in the US. You are donating as yourself, and can use the donation as a tax write off if you would like.

[–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mighty_alfredo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the link. To be clear to anyone too lazy to click (which you should do to verify anyway) this is a source that confirms that businesses don't get to claim your donation as their own.

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[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I will never ever give these fools my actual phone number for discounts. Just use any area code w/ 867-5309 to get around this.

[–] jackoneill@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Jenny Jenny, who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to. I know you think I’m like the others before who saw your name and number on the wall

[–] mcc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Then they will say it is more efficient to merge the donations with regular revenue and make bulk donations every quarter or something.

[–] darkknight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I hate when any company I'm buying something from does this.

[–] tomve_cz@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's still fine.

Some big international store in europe is asking to buy food from them for full price and donate it to food bank. Fuckin hilarious for making profit on charity.

[–] NUL@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a Mastercard ad running during Apple TV+'s MLB Friday's that really goads me.

It's an ad about how "we are powerful indivudually" but can accomplish "anything together". This includes using your Mastercard where they'll donate a SINGLE CENT per purchase (up to $5m, gotta cap it!) to "fight" cancer. And this commercial... yeah, it stuck with me thus did it's job, but as the ad wraps up, with music swelling, all of these people come from nowhere to surround/hug an apparent cancer survivor (wearing the appropriate cancer survivor sweatshirt).

Gross. Just gross. Clearly it's for some tax write off, and technically there's nothing for you to do or spend, other than what you were already going to purchase.

But still, Mastercard could have just donated $5m outright. Or donated the amount of money they spent on that damned commercial, which was probably in excess of $5m given it's high quality production values!

[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

where they'll donate a SINGLE CENT per purchase

And probably charge the merchant an extra 2c or 3c per transaction.

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