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Self-proclaimed misogynist ‘brazen’ about refusing to pay tax on revenue from online businesses, court told

Andrew Tate and his brother, Tristan, have been accused of failing to pay tax on £21m of revenue from their online businesses.

Devon and Cornwall police are bringing a civil claim against the brothers and a third person referred to as J over unpaid tax, Westminster magistrates’ court heard on Monday. The force is seeking about £2.8m in seven frozen bank accounts.

Sarah Clarke KC for Devon and Cornwall police said: “Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are serial tax and VAT evaders. They, in particular Andrew Tate, are brazen about it.”

It is claimed that they paid no tax in any country on £21m revenue from businesses online earned between 2014 and 2022. Clarke quoted from a video posted online by Andrew Tate, in which the self-proclaimed misogynist said: “When I lived in England I refused to pay tax.”

The court heard he said his approach was “ignore, ignore, ignore because in the end they go away”. The court also heard that the brothers had a “huge number of bank accounts” in the UK, seven of which have been frozen.

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[–] dditty@lemm.ee 120 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There's video footage of Andrew Tate from his Hustler's University online courses where he instructs his pupils to use cryptocurrency to avoid taxes, and also describes his methods for duping his webcam models with fake complicated tax terminology so he can essentially steal their wages. Throw the book at him

I kinda expected this TBH.

It aligns with his "moving to corrupt Romania" mode of operation. You know, saying the quiet part out loud.

Like the rest of them, hes more than happy to tax other peoples earnings, for using his things. He loves it. In fact, its his favourite part.

So, I hope no one reading this ever confuses business owners and landbastards hatred of taxes with a moral position.

They just don't think it should apply to them.

[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 80 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It's so crazy how many young guys choose this clown as their role model...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (3 children)

They have very few good role models to choose from. That's part of the problem.

There aren't enough role models teaching them that you can be a man without being toxic to women.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 15 points 4 months ago

This is true, but I can find a better role model on the bottom of my shoe. I wish people weren't so susceptible to his type of bullshit.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There’s an unlimited supply of great role models on the internet. It just takes a few minutes of effort to find them, because algorithmic feeds that are optimized for outrage/engagement to serve more ads are slightly easier to consume.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

If they have to look for them, they will find the ones they don’t have to look for first. Expecting them to seek out a healthy role model when the Andrew Tates of the world prey on them is a foolish expectation.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There aren't enough role models teaching them that you can be a man without being toxic to women.

Is this really the problem, or is the problem that the sort of people with role models like Tate are the sort of people who wouldn't gravitate towards non-toxic role models in the first place?

Because if it's actually true that there are very few good male role models to choose from, I'm not entirely sure what that tells us about men, exactly.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's more a factor of the format. There are few if any good female role models for the same type of spaces. The terminally online and angry at life teens aren't interacting with the spaces where good role models are.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

And the algorithms are actively pushing them away from the good role models toward the controversial videos.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are few if any good female role models for the same type of spaces.

This is such an odd take that I'm really not sure what type of spaces you're referring to exactly

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Spaces of anger at life. Of "edginess" bordering into the "isms" (racism, antisemitism, sexism etc) as proof of how much you don't give a fuck. That exists for many (usually depressed) teens. These spaces exist for both young men and women and lead into listening to the same type of shit takes. These spaces basically algorithmically get "edgier" and edgier until they are actually racist, sexist, etc. Any good role model who chances upon this and tries to engage is drowned out derided and shunned (either for not understanding "we're just being edgy, man" to "heres some 'articles' about phrenology and the replacement theory that looks real emough to most people" until the good person leaves.

The female equivalent to Tate would be something like a "tradwife" vlogger. They may not be as infamous but there's a lot of them and they aren't better.

A woman watching tradwife vlogs and a man watching Tate are both upset about various things in society. Many of which are reasonable, the cost of living, being able to find a partner, why the government doesn't work for them, whether there is any meaning in their life basically. They only get the perspective of get rich, fuck women or find a rich man and make babies/take care of the house.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 0 points 4 months ago

Ah right yes, I get what you mean, definitely agree with that

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

He had a lifestyle where he was constantly sleeping with different women, saying whatever garbage he wanted, very wealthy, and made his money running cons instead of real work.

I get it, I don't approve, but I get why some angry 17 year old would want that. By the time you hit 17 or so you already know the game is rigged, the trick is to get to 30 where you are too apathetic to care.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

I mean, he comes across as an incredibly pathetic sad loser that has managed to gather some money and fame. His fans probably relate to the former and hope watching his videos and taking after him will lead to the latter. 🤷‍♂️

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He's not a good person but some of the things he says are things that almost every young man resonates with. Feeling worthless, being lonely, wanting something to strive for, having no purpose, the feeling that life is unfair to you but you can't complain, or social stuff is hard.

It's not the solutions he proposed that made him popular, but the problems he raised.

Now let's be clear here, he's a slimy criminal with a ton of different schemes running concurrently, but at face value we still haven't found the time to address the problems he raised. The void he leaves is exploitable unless we get someone righteous who takes his place to inspire young men. And no, I don't think there's role models right now that can take his place, at least not with that reach or that charisma.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Nevermind the rapes and human trafficking eh?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

yeah yeah whatever but NOW YOU PISSED OFF THE GOVERNMENT

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago

Bitches better have my money- Romania

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Better pissed off than pissed on

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We got Al Capone on tax charges too. Whatever works once you've hit international fame levels of fuckery.

[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hopefully they'll take him to a place where Trump can't find or pardon him.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

not nevermind, just, prosecute and imprison on whatever you can. it's how they put Capone away, and I could see these fuckwit scumbags dying of syphilis in prison like Capone.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Well, not that shocked.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

This man should not be considered a role model. I cannot wait for the day the world forgets about him.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 18 points 4 months ago

Can't wait to see this AH in jail. Real jail, not home detention

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The dumb sex offender who went to jail because he didn’t hide his shitty Romanian pizza when he replied to a Greta Thunberg burn.

[–] runeko@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago

Very succinct.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 4 months ago

Wait, what? For real? Got a link? 😂

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Best if you don't know. Trust me. He ain't worth your precious time.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

But I'm being truthful. He ain't worth it. He's a waste of oxygen.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Some sex trafficker or rapist or something, yknow, the worst kind of nobody.

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Listen to the others and preserve your innocence. He's like a Pandora box that, once opened, will constantly remind you of its presence. Telling social media sites "stop showing me this type of content" does nothing except make him stop showing up in your feeds for a short time. But he comes back.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

A weakling who I want to kill woth a Daneaxe, a prime example of a debauched profligate with neither morals nor forethought who was able to amass wealth and influence by staying under the radar to a degree. But once he was able to gain the fame that his kind crave due to their misinterpretation of fame equaling power he got himself into international legal troubles.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

"massive piece of shit human turns out to be a massive piece of shit human."

Yeah no shit.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Andrew Tate and his brother, Tristan, have been accused of failing to pay tax on £21m of revenue from their online businesses.

Devon and Cornwall police are bringing a civil claim against the brothers and a third person referred to as J over unpaid tax, Westminster magistrates’ court heard on Monday.

Clarke quoted from a video posted online by Andrew Tate, in which the self-proclaimed misogynist said: “When I lived in England I refused to pay tax.”

The court also heard that the brothers had a “huge number of bank accounts” in the UK, seven of which have been frozen.

The Tates are accused of failing to pay tax and money laundering in both the UK and Romania, the court heard.

Paul Goldspring, the chief magistrate, will decide on the balance of probabilities whether what the police claim is true.


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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Looks like they totally do just go away there, bud. You're such a fucken genius. And dudes line up to give this guy top.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

Hey! He already has a title for serial and it is not tax evader.

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